police brutatlity? fuckin rolleyes.

All posts prior to 16-04-05 have been archived here.
User avatar
VietCongDeathSquad
Posts: 3180
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:16 am
Location: In the van outside your House, the White one....
Contact:

Postby VietCongDeathSquad » Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:58 pm

Fuckin hippy, he's got a bullet coming to him. I might just send one his way.



Threatening to kill?!

Fuck, Minto would crush you Molloy!
"Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est"

http://tnppodcast.libsyn.com/

Former Child Star
Posts: 2679
Joined: Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:15 am
Location: Wellington
Contact:

Re: sigh

Postby Former Child Star » Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:18 pm

homo_lover wrote:Alaska and all of the US's other oil reservers are getting low. They are also no longer as economically viable as they used to be. Its not about oil for the bloody tanks - its abotu securing long term access to cheap oil in Iraq. Its about giving multinational corporations access to the worlds second biggest reserves of oil in the world, i.e. iraq. the Us and Uk and their buisiness buddies have not had access to Iraqs oil since the 1970s. As a result of the war in Iraq, they now have access to it. You think its only slightly interesting that as everything was being demolished in Baghdad, only the oil ministry was protected by US marines? They will have more control over this oil than through agreements with Saudia Arabia - who is much to strong to invade and has no dictators to use as an excuse. The same oil companies, btw, are the ones making the money out of reconstruction in iraq.

I don't know where you get your ideas from, but I don't think you'll find many people, except for maybe rightwingers, who thinks this has nothign to do with oil.

homo_lover


there are still oil reserves in alaska that HAVEN'T been tapped yet. also the US has a strategic reserve mean't to opperate the entire country on a war footing for 3 years....minimum!
saudi is still a friendly allie, and yes, their monarchy does count as a represive regeime....it's just that they are friendly to the US.

when talking about "long term" oil supplies, we both know that it isn't very long at all (25 to 50 years) certianly not worth the cash money being spent on fuel, equipment, pay, ammunition, bribes, building etc etc
i'm not saying that the US is being completely selfless...but "blood for oil" as an argument, doesn't stack up.

i'm anything but right wing, but i do study the military, geo politics & the US.

I WANT PEOPLE TO PROTEST THE WAR

but do it properly!
Image
Image

Former Child Star
Posts: 2679
Joined: Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:15 am
Location: Wellington
Contact:

Postby Former Child Star » Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:31 pm

soem info for you to chew over;


M-1Abrams:
"A tank will need approximately 300 gallons every eight hours; this will vary depending on mission, terrain, and weather. A single tank takes 10 minutes to refuel. Refueling and rearming of a tank platoon--four tanks--is approximately 30 minutes under ideal conditions. 0.6 miles per gallon.

60 gallons per hour when traveling cross-country
30+ gallons per hour while operating at a tactical ideal
10 gallons basic idle
A mine plow will increase the fuel consummation rate of a tank by 25 percent"
from globalsecurity.org
1 Barrel = 42 US gallons

I don't know how many tanks though. I think someone with a US Army background will have a better idea on the organization structure of a US Armored unit.

Then again, what about combat jets and helicopters? Those are gas guzzlers too!



Here's something on Iraqi oil
"Iraq has 360 billion barrels of proven reserves, 12% of the world total. What makes Iraq a wealthy country is that the oil in the ground is an asset like money in the bank. Much of Iraq remains unexplored and ultimate reserves are expected to be a larger percentage. The Gulf region has 65% of the world’s proven oil reserves.
Iraq will be producing 6 million barrels of oil a day very soon, which is about 2 billion barrels per year. At $30 per barrel, that oil would sell for $60 billion per year. The population of Iraq is 24 million. That revenue translates into $2,500 per capita income per year. "
"http://www.auburn.edu/~thomph1/iraq.htm"

NOTE: Okay, it doesn't tell u about how much is coming out NOW but this could give u a decent idea at what the experts might have assumed would come out from Iraq. I don't know how good this source is... but if all of us go digging I'm sure we'll find out how valid these numbers are.
Image

Image

Former Child Star
Posts: 2679
Joined: Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:15 am
Location: Wellington
Contact:

Postby Former Child Star » Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:32 pm

and Iraq's oil is controlled by OPEC, hardley a US centric orginisation!

The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) is made up of Algeria, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Venezuela; since 1965, its international headquarters have been in Vienna, Austria. The organization's purpose is to negotiate with oil companies on matters of petroleum production, prices, and future concession rights.


OPEC buildingFounded September 14, 1960 at a Baghdad conference, OPEC originally consisted of only five countries. The members of OPEC constitute a cartel whose purpose is to agree on the quantity and price of the oil their countries export. Through coordinated effort OPEC seeks to regulate oil production and thereby manage oil prices, primarily by setting quotas for its members..

Member countries hold about 2/3 of the world's oil reserves. They supply 40% of the world's oil production and half of the exports. Thanks to OPEC, member nations receive considerably more for the oil they export. "Last year, OPEC's 11 members . . . received $338 billion in revenue from oil exports, a 42 percent increase from 2003, according to figures compiled by the federal Energy Information Administration" (New York Times, Jan. 28, 2005). Compare these figures to those from 1972, when oil exporters received $23 billion from oil exports, or 1977, when, in the aftermath of the 1973 energy crisis, they received $140 billion (Daniel Yergin, The Prize [Simon & Schuster, 1991], p. 634).

Since worldwide oil sales are denominated in U.S. dollars, changes in the value of the dollar against other world currencies affect OPEC's decisions on how much oil to produce. For example, when the dollar falls relative to the other currencies, OPEC-member states receive smaller revenues in other currencies for their oil, causing substantial cuts in their purchasing power, because they continue to sell oil in the U.S. dollar. After the introduction of the euro, Iraq unilaterally decided it wanted to be paid for its oil in euros instead of US dollars. Some argue that this decision could have severely damaged the US economy, had it been followed by other OPEC members.

OPEC decisions have considerable influence on international oil prices. For example, in the 1973 energy crisis OPEC refused to ship oil to western countries that had supported Israel in the Yom Kippur War or October War with Egypt and Syria. This refusal caused a fourfold increase in the price of oil, which lasted five months, starting on October 17, 1973, and ending on March 18, 1974. OPEC nations then agreed, on January 7, 1975, to raise crude oil prices by 10%.

Unlike many other cartels, OPEC has been successful at increasing the price of oil for extended periods. Much of OPEC's success can be attributed to Saudi Arabia's flexibility. It has tolerated cheating on the part of other cartel members, and cut its own production to compensate for other members having exceeded their production quotas. This actually gives them good leverage, because with most members at full production, Saudi Arabia is the only member with spare capacity, and the ability to increase supply, if needed.

The policy has been successful, causing the price of crude oil to rise to levels that had, at one time, been reached only by refined products. However, OPEC's ability to raise prices does have some limits. An increase in oil price decreases consumption, and could cause a net decrease in revenue. Furthermore, an extended rise in price could encourage systematic behavior change, such as alternative energy utilization, or increased conservation.

Leading up to the 1990-91 Gulf War, Iraqi President Saddam Hussein advocated that OPEC push world oil prices up, thereby helping Iraq, and other member states, service debts.

As of August 2004, OPEC has been communicating that its members have little excess pumping capacity, indicating that the cartel is losing influence over crude oil prices. Indonesia is reconsidering its membership having become a net importer and being unable to meet its production quota.
Image

Image

Former Child Star
Posts: 2679
Joined: Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:15 am
Location: Wellington
Contact:

Postby Former Child Star » Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:14 am

about the US strategic reserve;


The US Government maintains a strategic reserve of crude so they do not have to depend on fuel output of any country. I don't know where it is or how much they have stockpiled and I don't think that can be found on Google but fuel from the supply has been used several times to bolster the amount in use in the USA

President Clinton tapped the strategic reserves when gas prices were high in an effort to ease prices. President Bush has refused to follow Clinton's actions citing high gas prices is not enough to tap the reserves.

Here is a little history on the strategic oil reserves. The reserve was formed after the oil embargo in the 1970's for emergencies. According to MSN, the oil reserves were at 540 million barrels of oil when Bush took office in 2001. Now the reserve stands around 660 million barrels of oil. The democrats have said that we should not be adding to the reserve because of high prices.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5015445
Image

Image

User avatar
Taipo
Posts: 65
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:23 pm
Contact:

Postby Taipo » Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:07 pm

VietCongDeathSquad said:
Threatening to kill?!

Fuck, Minto would crush you Molloy!


I_MASH_POTATOES is Molloy???? Youre kidding right?

User avatar
BanalityDUFF
Posts: 1954
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:01 pm
Location: Brisbane

Postby BanalityDUFF » Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:51 pm

What I don't get when I see most protestors is that they're always against something but never provide an alternative means.

Its all good to protest the ANZ but provide an alternate means for the country to get funds there (according to ANZ they were helping with exportation?), don't just say 'well they shouldn't be there', even if it is to meet their own ends they're obviously providing a service to the country, a service that if your protest had succeeded in pulling them out would of then dissapeared or been refiled by another company whom you'd probaly then proceed to protest.

If anyone did partake in the march and has an alternative to the current situation Id love to hear it, because the Media didn't protray you guys in a good light at all. I thought you were all a bunch of fucktards who didn't take into consideration what you were doing.


I WANT PEOPLE TO PROTEST THE WAR

but do it properly!

ditto.

I_SMASH_FAGGOTS

Postby I_SMASH_FAGGOTS » Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:05 pm

VietCongDeathSquad wrote:
Fuckin hippy, he's got a bullet coming to him. I might just send one his way.



Threatening to kill?!

Fuck, Minto would crush you Molloy!


You don't know jack shit you fuckin retard, I'll pump that socialist faggot full of bullets.

User avatar
Bruticus
Posts: 5792
Joined: Wed Aug 21, 2002 3:12 pm
Location: Guadalcanal
Contact:

Postby Bruticus » Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:20 pm

But what he really meant to say:

I_SMASH_FAGGOTS wrote:I'll pump that socialist faggot full of semen.
Image
If I had a bag of chips I'd eat them

User avatar
I Believe In Homicide
Posts: 856
Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:10 pm

Postby I Believe In Homicide » Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:31 pm

I_SMASH_FAGGOTS wrote:
VietCongDeathSquad wrote:
Fuckin hippy, he's got a bullet coming to him. I might just send one his way.



Threatening to kill?!

Fuck, Minto would crush you Molloy!


You don't know jack shit you fuckin retard, I'll pump that socialist faggot full of bullets.


Oi tough guy whats your address ???? Come on your soo fucking tough and im sure tonnes of socialists would go around to your house for you to mow them down ( even though you only have blowback gas bb gun or will be spraying water (bullets in your mindframe), plus the fact that there are more ex-military ex-cops on the extreme left than the extreme right ) so be the tough guy you are Molloy, tell us where you live and your phone number so we know its really you. Or are you to scared to back the shit you say on the net up ???

P.S Consider yourself very lucky that most of the Kiwi Chinese Anzacs are dead otherwise you'd be one hunted down little fuckwit.
cirE wrote:one day, i'll be in people's signatures

and i'll be cool

User avatar
Komodo
Posts: 28
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:49 pm

Postby Komodo » Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:56 pm

You don't know jack shit you fuckin retard, I'll pump that socialist faggot full of bullets.


Hi Molloy, feeling all nice and comfortable on your new webserver yet? Ready for round two? :wink:

Andy Justice
Posts: 964
Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2002 7:08 pm

Postby Andy Justice » Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:27 pm

Molloy is now commiting a criminal offence :roll: . Shut your mouth now before you get arrested. Or you and your buddies can arrange a meet with me (021 0447475). :roll: I have been waiting for you guys to ring up and talk dirty.

Andy Justice
Posts: 964
Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2002 7:08 pm

Postby Andy Justice » Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:54 pm

On another note, Protesting by holding up traffic is not going to make people awear and its going to make people angry. Prevent me from geting home after a hard days work and see if I smile, toot and wave :roll:.
Nice to see people are bring information about dirty banks funding war and terror. But like I said, people need to wise up about their protesting methods.
Pissing off members of the working population isnt a good stratagy to get the point across.

infamous_dudes
Posts: 734
Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:53 pm
Location: glen eden
Contact:

Postby infamous_dudes » Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:32 pm

INotExtravagentIAManOfGod wrote:
I_SMASH_FAGGOTS wrote:
VietCongDeathSquad wrote:
Fuckin hippy, he's got a bullet coming to him. I might just send one his way.



Threatening to kill?!

Fuck, Minto would crush you Molloy!


You don't know jack shit you fuckin retard, I'll pump that socialist faggot full of bullets.


Oi tough guy whats your address ???? Come on your soo fucking tough and im sure tonnes of socialists would go around to your house for you to mow them down ( even though you only have blowback gas bb gun or will be spraying water (bullets in your mindframe), plus the fact that there are more ex-military ex-cops on the extreme left than the extreme right ) so be the tough guy you are Molloy, tell us where you live and your phone number so we know its really you. Or are you to scared to back the shit you say on the net up ???

P.S Consider yourself very lucky that most of the Kiwi Chinese Anzacs are dead otherwise you'd be one hunted down little fuckwit.


..........What he said.

ps - I LOOOOVE darkies.

User avatar
VietCongDeathSquad
Posts: 3180
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:16 am
Location: In the van outside your House, the White one....
Contact:

Postby VietCongDeathSquad » Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:03 pm

Anytime Molloy.

Bring that baby face down here and see what you get. Even better, next time I'm in AK, come along and bring your crew.

Your a net-talking pussy..... I seen you crying in Wellington....
"Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est"


http://tnppodcast.libsyn.com/

I_SMASH_FAGGOTS

Postby I_SMASH_FAGGOTS » Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:37 pm

VietCongDeathSquad wrote:Your a net-talking pussy..... I seen you crying in Wellington....


Is that right? What a load of shit. Bring all the 9mm guns and molotovs you want, I'll be laughing my head off when I see you and your "homies" fly back 10 feet when my crew armed with M4's and full CQB gear rip your pansy little body to bits.

User avatar
chrisbucks
Posts: 5691
Joined: Fri Oct 10, 2003 6:39 pm
Location: Grey Lynn, Orkland
Contact:

Postby chrisbucks » Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:41 pm

I_SMASH_FAGGOTS wrote:my crew armed with M4's and full CQB gear rip your pansy little body to bits.


i like to play dress up too jason.
‹Rob Anybody› yeh that is an implied threat... an almost threat, god you need to research what a threat is you spinless waterballon man


021 1458835
Image

Andy Justice
Posts: 964
Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2002 7:08 pm

Postby Andy Justice » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:28 pm

I_SMASH_FAGGOTS wrote:
my crew armed with M4's and full CQB gear rip your pansy little body to bits.

Jason you have been playing too much counter strike. SHOW me your m4 bbgun. There is NO WAY you own an M4, you dont have the licence, you wouldnt get the import permit and I bet you dont have a spare 7 grand.
BOY you are a complete tard and its about time the police took and intrest in your rantings (sounds like you might shoot some school kids).

PS. Homies? no homies on this site?............... 9mm? this is NZ gangsters dont pack!!....................m4 - 10 feet? its only a .223, the AR10 is .308, even then 10 feet is abit far.

When shot a man SPINS and FALLS, spin and fall just like the figure 11......Looks like you havent been in the army.

Former Child Star
Posts: 2679
Joined: Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:15 am
Location: Wellington
Contact:

Postby Former Child Star » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:50 pm

I_SMASH_FAGGOTS wrote: my crew armed with M4's and full CQB gear rip your pansy little body to bits.



this is probably the most nerdy thing i have EVER heard.

you are an asshat smashie, an asshat.
Image

Image

User avatar
VietCongDeathSquad
Posts: 3180
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:16 am
Location: In the van outside your House, the White one....
Contact:

Postby VietCongDeathSquad » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:59 pm

Close Quarter battle gear?

Image

M4's?

Image


oooooooooo Jason! Stop! Your making me hard......
"Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est"


http://tnppodcast.libsyn.com/

User avatar
Taipo
Posts: 65
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:23 pm
Contact:

Postby Taipo » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:47 pm

Ok you kiwi boys, enuf of this BB gun horseshit ok! :wink:

User avatar
VietCongDeathSquad
Posts: 3180
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:16 am
Location: In the van outside your House, the White one....
Contact:

Postby VietCongDeathSquad » Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:01 pm

Ok you kiwi boys, enuf of this BB gun horseshit ok! Wink


He started it :wink: ! >>>>>>>^^^^^^^^.

So,

Threatening to blow away John Minto, NPHC (d'oh! Jason Molloy don't realise that I'm not NPHC.....in the posting sense!) and threatening to bury Wax alive....

All Quotes courtesy of I_SMASH_FAGGOTS
Oh, and I saw a rare appearance by John Minto, the filthy scum. He'd better watch his back, I hear Ethel St is nice this time of year, I'm thinking of paying a visit... No. 4 I believe.

Beware.

Fuckin hippy, he's got a bullet coming to him. I might just send one his way.

You don't know jack shit you fuckin retard, I'll pump that socialist faggot full of bullets.

Is that right? What a load of shit. Bring all the 9mm guns and molotovs you want, I'll be laughing my head off when I see you and your "homies" fly back 10 feet when my crew armed with M4's and full CQB gear rip your pansy little body to bits.

We are watching you too Matt. Nice to see you replacing your windows with bullet proof glass, you scared? I certainly hope so. You should be.

NPHC is marked. One phone call and you all bite the dust.

When the time is right, we will strike, and strike hard. Be prepared! You anarchist punks won't know what hit you.

You should probably put on a flack jacket when I come calling, unless you prefer a quick death.

Yeah why the fuck should I show you my weapons? You'll just go out and buy thicker kevlar, and make it harder for me to kill you.
Fuckstain.

Yeah, I'm digging. Do you know what it's like to be buried alive Wax? I'm sure you'll be acquainted with the feeling shortly.


You crazy fulla!


:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes:
"Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est"


http://tnppodcast.libsyn.com/

User avatar
wintergreen
Posts: 396
Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:31 pm
Location: Wellington

Postby wintergreen » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:48 pm

VietCongDeathSquad wrote:ooooooooo Jason! Stop! Your making me hard......


That boy could make anyone hard


Return to “All archived posts prior to 16-04-05”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests