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Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby Max » Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:28 pm

OK, commericialism sucks and religion sucks. But I kind of like the good will and family aspect. Any thoughts?

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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby Drax » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:30 am

What if you've got fuck all/no family?


I'm with you on the good will and family thing. But when people act like this is the only time of year they can really get into not treating others like shit it's kind of repulsive. And there's plenty of people around who don't really get to enjoy the family thing. I'm being cynical cause It's a few days away and I'm fucking over all the Christmas bullshit at this stage. A lot of hollow sentiment to sell things or just for the sake of it. I'd like to watch Die Hard at some point.
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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby akaxo » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:00 pm

it's pretty irrelevant to me this year, no family shit to do and i just had a holiday so kinda working through it all and moving house at the same time. fucking load of crap that it is.
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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby Drax » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:28 pm

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Drax wrote:when people act like this is the only time of year they can really get into not treating others like shit it's kind of repulsive


more just about everyone having time off work at the same time?

Yeah, some of that. But some people are just fucking unpleasant, and when they start doing all this 'Merry Christmas!' shit in public, it's token rubbish. Better than nothing I suppose, but when it's insincere I'd rather someone just acted like the asshole they are.

But I am being cynical.
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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby akaxo » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:59 pm

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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby Subcide » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:25 pm

akaxo wrote:[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfSLSwrVOo[/video]


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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby Subcide » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:23 pm

This is definitely a Punkically correctly approach to Christmas
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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby bruce wayne » Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:49 am

smashing any radio you come in contact with that's playing this god awful song

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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby 9seconds » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:28 am

oh yeh, cos thats worse than the various christmas carols been given pop treatment, i feel bad for anyone who works in a retail store at this time of year.
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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby Dixon Cider A.C. » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:27 am

To be fair, that song does fucking blow

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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby 9seconds » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:21 am

i would rather hear it once a year than any other christmas song i can think of, if i manage to spend christmas eve at home not drinking this year il watch the first 3 die hards with a sesh, and ok, like 6 beers, and not be hungover for christmas days all day eating and drinking binge with the family.
this year my hapu is on nibbles, so im gunna do a fuckin shit ton of homemade dolmas, cos the grapevine out back is threatening to go full triffid and consume the house.
might do some homemade gyozas too, but thats a bit more work, easier to cook tho.
due to my aversion all year round to radio and tv and retail shopping, i probably have avoided most of the really shitty christmas music, i went to payless plastics in the futile hope their brewing gear would be rationally priced, it wasnt and i heard one of their staff subconsciously singing along to one of the godawful chrismas songs, she looked suicidal when our eyes made contact, if i had any mercy in my heart i would have asked her where the clingfilm was kept and wrapped her head up bubbys parents, "be still now cat".
if im lucky il manage to do all my christmas shopping between the stupormarket and the bottle store.
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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby 9seconds » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:44 am

Let's say we find out an asteroid is going to hit the earth at some point over the next three months. It may kill all of us, it may kill some of us, it may splash harmlessly into the ocean -- but there is no stopping it. All we can do is hunker down and see what happens. How would you react? How would humanity as a whole react? Well, I know how: we would prepare as best we could, and then we would surround ourselves with the people we love most and party our asses off. We would do it, because we would realize it might be our last chance. I know this, because we have Christmas.

Allow me to explain.

This is the time of year when my Christian friends remind me via Facebook image macros that Christ is the reason for the season, and my atheist friends remind everyone that "Christmas" is at best a renamed pagan orgy and at worst a crass hybrid of religious conditioning and economic stimulus ("God became a man to save us from sin, so let's get into a fistfight over the last PlayStation 4 at Target!"). Well, let me take the bold stance that if you're using Christmas as an excuse to be a dick to somebody, you're probably doing it wrong. The real origins of this holiday are amazing, sacred, and etched into your very DNA, if not by God then by evolution. There's enough magic here for everybody, damn it.

It's hard to understand why Christmas came to be a big deal even for people who have never stepped foot inside a church without understanding the context. And the context -- which does predate Christianity by thousands of years -- is that December kicks off winter in the Northern hemisphere. And for most of human history, winter meant a bunch of us were going to freaking die.

We're so detached from that idea today, when the cold means nothing more than mild annoyance and sometimes slippery roads, that it's hard to grasp how recent this was, and that this was the way of things for virtually all of human history. Every year, you headed into winter with just enough stored food and fuel to get by. The old and the sick knew they might not make it through, and an especially harsh winter could mean no one would feel the sun's warmth ever again. Every year, you watched all of the plants turn brown and shrivel into husks, followed by an unrelenting darkness and cold that threatened to swallow you and everything you love.

And looking back at that, we see an awesome little portrait of exactly how much humans kick ass. Every year, you see, winter arrived with a short day followed by the longest night of the year (aka the winter solstice), and since before recorded history, humans have been celebrating that day with a feast, or festival, or outright debauchery. On that longest night before the frozen mini-apocalypse, in all times and places you would find light and song and dancing and food. Cattle would be slaughtered (to avoid having to feed all of them through the winter), families would travel to be together, and wine would flow. Precious supplies were dedicated to making decorations and gifts -- frivolous things, good for nothing other than making each other happy.

These celebrations went by many names over the millennia, and everyone did it their own way. But deep down, I think the message was always the same: "We made it through another year, some of us won't see spring, let's spend a few days reminding each other of what's good about humanity." Or, I'll just let you read my favorite Christmas quote, from esteemed essayist Dan Harmon:

No matter how black, white, male, female, Irish, German, tall, short, ugly or pretty you felt this year, you are part of a family that has been targeted by an unforgiving cosmos since its inception but has, regardless, survived ... humanity, warts and all, is an inherently heroic species that has spent about 99.99% of its short lifetime as an underdog. And If you see no billboards telling you that, it's not because it's not true. It's because there's little to no profit to be made telling you.

I could go on and on about the suffering we've endured and the adaptations we've made, but to me, our species' crowning jewel is that on the shortest day of the year, when the sun spends most of its time swallowed, when everything is frozen, when nothing can grow, when the air is so cold our voices stop right in front of our faces ... we put a string of lights on a universe that is currently doing nothing to earn it. We not only salvage an otherwise desolate time of year, we make it the best time of year.

"Wait," you might say, "so your inspirational, 'true meaning of Christmas' is that we should remember how our filthy ancestors used to freeze to death on a regular basis?" No, Christmas isn't magical because of what it was, or where it came from. It's magical because that's what it still is.

See, around this time of year, my social media also fills with friends and acquaintances half-joking about having to tolerate the holidays around their extended family, people they only see once or twice a year with whom they have nothing in common and don't like talking to. It all seems so arbitrary to them, a holiday that as a kid meant free toys and as an adult means travel, shopping, and trying to remember the name of your cousin's new wife while the two of you make awkward conversation around the eggnog fountain. But that's only because we're separated from that ancient, unspoken truth, which is that this festive gathering around the fire might be the last time you see those faces.

And that part hasn't changed.

This will be read by tens of thousands of people, and statistically, some of you are in fact traveling to see your grandparents, or parents, or siblings, for the very last time. You don't know it's their last Christmas, of course -- if you somehow knew, you'd do it differently. You'd try to stretch out those moments, you wouldn't spend conversations nervously looking for an exit point, you'd spend a little more time digging up old memories and laughing about your shared past. You'd spend less time worrying about the gifts and the budget, and more about how we're spending the precious little time we have left. Once upon a time, nobody needed that reminder that life was short -- the holiday was the reminder. You hugged your family extra tight because, to quote the HBO series all the kids are watching these days, "Winter is Coming." -David Wong

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kinda makes christmas seem a bit more badass, there could be some decent death metal or goth songs about this, if there arent already, no need for cheesey make fun of christmas songs about slaughtered elves and raindeer blood when the reality is so GRYM and BRVTAL
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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby akaxo » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:58 pm

summary?
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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby arkie » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:43 pm

akaxo wrote:summery?


That's my main gripe with all the trad christmas crap, it just doesn't make a lot of sense in the southern hemisphere. I'd rename the day in the calendar as Summer Family Day and let people do what the fuck they like re:christianity etc etc.

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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby Dan Last » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:46 pm

Looking forward to the second annual Die Hard Day on which we shall watch all of the Die Hards in reverse order, so that they improve throughout the day (though my feeling is that they peak at With A Vengeance). This is our Boxing Day tradition.

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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby General Mutante » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:06 pm

Spending it at my girlfriend's place. She wants me to dress up as Santa for her.
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Postby Subcide » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:46 pm

I'm pretty fucking disgusted with most of you here. You've all pressed my buttons and pissed me off at some stage or another this year. None worse than a Sam and that Dickinsider cunt. I've also had to nurse Sean's grumpy old fucking ego back to health more than once in the last 12 months. But despite all of that, I've decided to gift you all this very special Xmas album. I can't be fucked typing the track list so you'll need to download it to find out what's on it. Click on the album cover to discover out what's inside.

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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby FC » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:50 pm

Why did you post this twice
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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby Sicinius » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:29 am

might do some homemade gyozas too, but thats a bit more work
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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby Subcide » Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:43 am

FC wrote:Why did you post this twice


I can post it 3 times if you like. Here

Subcide wrote:I'm pretty fucking disgusted with most of you here. You've all pressed my buttons and pissed me off at some stage or another this year. None worse than a Sam and that Dickinsider cunt. I've also had to nurse Sean's grumpy old fucking ego back to health more than once in the last 12 months. But despite all of that, I've decided to gift you all this very special Xmas album. I can't be fucked typing the track list so you'll need to download it to find out what's on it. Click on the album cover to discover out what's inside.

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Postby FC » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:16 pm

There was no need for that. It is kind of amusing watching you have a tantrum though.
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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby 9seconds » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:23 pm

Sicinius wrote:
might do some homemade gyozas too, but thats a bit more work

are you saying, andre, that you are also going to do some homemade gyozas for christmas? or in typical style you are mocking my efforts in a way that only makes you look like a total fuckin douchebag?

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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby 9seconds » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:24 pm

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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby 9seconds » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:37 pm

Dan Last wrote:Looking forward to the second annual Die Hard Day on which we shall watch all of the Die Hards in reverse order, so that they improve throughout the day (though my feeling is that they peak at With A Vengeance). This is our Boxing Day tradition.

Christmas will be interesting.


im not sure i agree with this, are there four or five diehards? i have seen the 4th, but i wasnt impressed, while die hard with a vengeance is absolutely excellent, it is not better than the first one, but it didnt need to be anywhere near as fabulous as it was to be better than the second, which while still enjoyable, was a bit shit, im not against cheesy one liners, but die hard two was ridiculous, they clearly just made a sequel with that one, altho they did a wicked job of making you hate that reporter douche on the plane, so that when john punches him you basically shit your pants and orgasm.

i might also watch in reverse order, or i might just only watch 1 and 3.
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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby Max » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:44 pm

A personal pet hate is douchey parents who threaten their kids with Santa's non-appearance to bribe them into being "good".

It's just wrong on so many levels... and no, lying to kids and filling their heads with bullshit does not "stimulate their imaginations". And how are the kids going to feel once they figure out you lied to them? I guess it's ok to tell kids about Santa Claus, so long as you present it as "just a story".

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Re: Punkically correctly approach to Christmas

Postby 9seconds » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:02 pm

you talk like someone who watches a fuckin shitload of TV, i swear you sound just like an interminable lesson leaned from an unbroken line of christmas specials dating back to the 60s.
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Postby Subcide » Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:05 pm

FC wrote:There was no need for that. It is kind of amusing watching you have a tantrum though.


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Postby Subcide » Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:07 pm

9seconds wrote:'no presents for drax' made my day, thanx chris.


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Postby Subcide » Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:08 pm

Max wrote:A personal pet hate is douchey parents who threaten their kids with Santa's non-appearance to bribe them into being "good".

It's just wrong on so many levels... and no, lying to kids and filling their heads with bullshit does not "stimulate their imaginations". And how are the kids going to feel once they figure out you lied to them? I guess it's ok to tell kids about Santa Claus, so long as you present it as "just a story".


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