A list of bad things about New Zealand

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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby the croc » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:08 am

akaxo wrote:pretty sure a whole whack of them aren't unique to here anyway.


Exactly. Most of them apply to most Western cities in the world. Our shitty Internet is due to being in the middle of butt fuck no where. Aging population is worldwide.

Beredius, where is this magical land that has none of the problems you speak of in the first post?
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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby Little Miss Twoshoes » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:15 am

Imho, beaches and forests make it all worthwhile.
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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby akaxo » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:21 am

that and our relatively low population density.
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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby sneakers o'toole » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:09 am

Completely disagree with the ACC part:

http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/EN/A ... and%2BPlan

Have a skim through that you will see that alot if not all of those "problems" are addressed in the above document. Problem is we have arguably the most short-sighted central government in NZ history in direct conflict with the most forward-thinking major since Sir Dove-Myer Robinson.

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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby akaxo » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:42 am

no argument with that one
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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby dustbinflowers » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:44 am

po-faced woofterism
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Postby General Mutante » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:44 am

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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby Beredius » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:58 pm

. wrote:rugby


Haha, noooo. One of the most over played and over advertised sports in NZ. I'm a geek so I'm more intrigued by the latest scientific, economic or environmental discovery rather than the latest sport results.

sneakers o'toole wrote:Completely disagree with the ACC part:

http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/EN/A ... and%2BPlan

Have a skim through that you will see that alot if not all of those "problems" are addressed in the above document. Problem is we have arguably the most short-sighted central government in NZ history in direct conflict with the most forward-thinking major since Sir Dove-Myer Robinson.


You sound like a friend I was recently talking to. I like the idea of installing a light tram railway on Queen Street and emphasis pedestrian areas there. If I had it my way I would turn the whole of Queen Street into a pedestrian zone. I looked at one of the reports and it mentioned poor cycling support. This is one of the suckie things about NZ I probably should've mentioned but awesome if they address it. It sounds like this country has the right tracks but whether it's capable of co-ordinating any action is another question. It's the countries incapabilities which boggles the mind.
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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby Beredius » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:38 pm

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akaxo wrote:pretty sure a whole whack of them aren't unique to here anyway.


Exactly. Most of them apply to most Western cities in the world. Our shitty Internet is due to being in the middle of butt fuck no where. Aging population is worldwide.

Beredius, where is this magical land that has none of the problems you speak of in the first post?


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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby dustbinflowers » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:18 pm

Amsterdam is full of drunk British people. Kind of like New Zealand...
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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby Nathanael » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:22 pm

We have a great public transport system in Melbourne, yet people still whinge about it.

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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby aerozol » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:38 pm

. wrote:rugby

I don't actually mind it much.

Rugby 'culture', now that's retarded, but as far as national sports go, at least it's straightforward and pretty badass. Less gay than American Football, is what I'm trying to say here.

But it would be nice if other sports got some attention from time to time.
eg everyone in here should know who Jossi Wells is, because the rest of the world sure does *rage* :evil:

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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby Marrow » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:20 pm

Agreed. As a sport it's fine, I'll happily play it with my mates if I'm bored, but the fact that the rest of the country assumes you give a shit about it, bitches when they find out you don't care, and get shitfaced en masse every time there's a major event on gets tiring after a while.
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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby bridge. » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:50 pm

it's easy to think other places are peachy when you don't live there for ages and don't have to give a fuck about the politics/social welfare etc because it doesn't affect you in any way.

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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby Red_switch » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:07 am

aerozol wrote:
. wrote:rugby

I don't actually mind it much.

Rugby 'culture', now that's retarded, but as far as national sports go, at least it's straightforward and pretty badass. Less gay than American Football, is what I'm trying to say here.

But it would be nice if other sports got some attention from time to time.
eg everyone in here should know who Jossi Wells is, because the rest of the world sure does *rage* :evil:


Yea but Jossi is a douche, happy clapper fundy xtian steeze machine. Yea he can ski, but he spends more time posing for photos in the latest Oakleys.

If the Wells boys had grown up anywhere else, they'd be middle o' the road skiers.

Sam Smoothy on the other hand...
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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby the croc » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:42 am

You mean having one cable connecting us to the rest of the world has nothing to do with slow internet speeds?

New Zealand is 4th out of 34 in the OECD Better Life Index.

http://oecdbetterlifeindex.org/#/11111111111
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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby Red_switch » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:53 am

Not as much is the shit local infrastructure. Very fast internet exists in NZ.

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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby Little Miss Twoshoes » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:54 am

Marrow wrote:Agreed. As a sport it's fine, I'll happily play it with my mates if I'm bored, but the fact that the rest of the country assumes you give a shit about it, bitches when they find out you don't care, and get shitfaced en masse every time there's a major event on gets tiring after a while.


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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby aerozol » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:55 am

Red_switch wrote:Yea but Jossi is a douche, happy clapper fundy xtian steeze machine. Yea he can ski, but he spends more time posing for photos in the latest Oakleys.

If the Wells boys had grown up anywhere else, they'd be middle o' the road skiers.

I'm not arguing with that. Jossi really isn't kiwi in manner or attitude at all.
But the fact remains that we have actual world-class athletes in NZ who only gets onto page freaking three when they win the world halfpipe champs.

Let's not forget Neil Williman either, who's stomping huge shit all over the place these days:
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyqQpE_64LQ[/video]
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Epiiic bail at 4:00 too if anybody's more interested in that...

But yeah NZ has some solid international athletes who are basically ignored here.

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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby Red_switch » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:59 am

That's because the editor knows that pipe has sucked since about 2005.
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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby aerozol » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:00 am

Haha I fucking doubt it.

(that the editor knows what 'pipe' is)
Edit: and pipe keeps getting better, imo. Not that I ever liked it that much. Doubles are cool there. Big air has gotten boring lately..

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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby Red_switch » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:06 am

Nah, pipe is just fucking gynmastics nowadays. Might as well be aerials.

Big air is rad when done right, there need to be more downtown big air comps, jib fests are gay.
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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby the croc » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:11 am

Red_switch wrote:Not as much is the shit local infrastructure. Very fast internet exists in NZ.

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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby aerozol » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:11 am

Aerials are pretty sick though.

But Pipe at least lets people string some stuff together. Big air is just 'who does a triple and holds the grab longest'.
Jib fests are fun... Actually, I think Big Air just isn't my thing at all.

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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby ruff » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:12 pm

the croc wrote:
Red_switch wrote:Not as much is the shit local infrastructure. Very fast internet exists in NZ.

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Speed is not the point. It's the cost.


I thought it was fairly obvious that this was your point.

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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby Red_switch » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:23 pm

the croc wrote:
Red_switch wrote:Not as much is the shit local infrastructure. Very fast internet exists in NZ.

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Speed is not the point. It's the cost.


Which is funny, given that the fastest connections are not all that expensive for the user. You work for the govt yeah? Your dept/office on karen?
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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby Red_switch » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:25 pm

aerozol wrote:Aerials are pretty sick though.


Aerials are fucking gay. And slightly disturbing. Do you also like ski ballet?
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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby aerozol » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:35 pm

Red_switch wrote:
aerozol wrote:Aerials are pretty sick though.

Aerials are fucking gay. And slightly disturbing. Do you also like ski ballet?

Ski ballet isn't my thing. I think it was always a novelty thing.

But the shit aerial skiiers do is insane. It's huge and dangerous, and they do epic stuff. That it's not fashionable right now isn't really important to me.

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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby the croc » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:44 pm

Red_switch wrote:
the croc wrote:
Red_switch wrote:Not as much is the shit local infrastructure. Very fast internet exists in NZ.

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Speed is not the point. It's the cost.


Which is funny, given that the fastest connections are not all that expensive for the user. You work for the govt yeah? Your dept/office on karen?


Yes. No idea, my job isn't office based so don't even have access to the intranet.

Expense is all relative. In regards to the original post, data charges here are much higher here compared to the rest of the world. This is due mainly to our geographical isolation meaning we have only one cable linking us to the rest of the world where most of the internet is stored. It's not unusual for large companies to spend well over 50% of their telco accounts on data per month, I'm talking accounts over $1million here.
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Re: A list of bad things about New Zealand

Postby Red_switch » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:51 pm

I think that has more to do with local infrastructure and industry eh.
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