dustbinflowers wrote:I think laws and regulations are not going to prevent people who want to do stuff to other people from getting guns. There are an awful lot of unregistered firearms out there, and unlicenced people with them.
except time and time again it's proven that regulations ARE effective. just look at australian stats since the post-port arthur regulations have been in place. it's undeniable. and i suppose it's just a coincidence that america with next to zero gun regulation have the highest amount of gun deaths on the planet? yes there are an awful lot of unregistered firearms out there. and if guns weren't regulated there'd be more. not the best logic there tbh.
I'm not at all pro-gun. But neither would I suggest it's that straight-forward. The USA is pretty much anomalous when it comes to gun statistics.
If you look at gun ownership rates globally, and remove the USA and nations with current or recent civil war, the direct correlations between gun ownership and gun related crime start to break down pretty rapidly. This suggests that culture is probably as important as regulation, and effective regulation of weapons in circulation has a more positive impact than outright clamping down on all weapons. Countries with long histories of hunting with firearms, and high gun ownership tend to have relatively low gun crime rates. Countries (other than the USA) where gun crime is prolific (central and south america in particular) have pretty low ownership rates of guns.
I don't like guns, but I don't like shitty use of statistics either.
As an aside, we often hear the argument that high gun ownership rates lead to an effective arms race with police forces. Police in many European countries are armed as heavily, or moreso, than in the USA. Yet they don't seem to go around shooting up brown people as frequently. Culture has a lot to answer for.