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EU to vote on banning porn

Postby Dead Kid » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:16 pm

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201303 ... ship.shtml
Article 17 of the report says (with emphasis added):

    17. Calls on the EU and its Member States to take concrete action on its resolution of 16 September 1997 on discrimination against women in advertising, which called for a ban on all forms of pornography in the media and on the advertising of sex tourism;
It's important to note that this is not a law as such, but a report, as Engström explains:

    This means that it does not automatically become law even if it is adopted, but is just a way for the European parliament to express its opinion.

    But the purpose of these own initiative reports are to serve as the basis for the Commission when it decides to present legislative proposals to the parliament. If this own initiative report is adopted by the parliament, it will strengthen the Commission's position if and when it wants to propose various "self-regulation" schemes in the future.

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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby Craig_Bastard » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:41 am

So they only watch mainstream porn, but what about underground porn that discriminates against men?

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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby Max » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:47 pm

It's a bit of a myth that porn is degrading to women. Who's really being exploited, the women who make a lot of money showing off their bodies and doing nasty shit for the camera or the men who pay for it? And in the porn industry, the men have a much harder job to do but get paid less.

Porn is about commercialising male sexual fantasies in all their variety. This includes gay porn, dominatrix porn and other material that doesn't fit with the "degradation of women" paradigm. Porn just reflects the market. Some men fantasize about degrading women, some men fantasize about being degraded by women, some men fantasize about midgets.

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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby xsfat » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:49 am

It's a bit of a myth that porn is degrading to women. Who's really being exploited, the women who make a lot of money showing off their bodies and doing nasty shit for the camera or the men who pay for it? And in the porn industry, the men have a much harder job to do but get paid less.

There is no myth, just views and perceptions.
Whether or not you think the actor, the actress, or the consumer is being exploited has no bearing on whether it is viewed as degrading towards women.

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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby Fiction & Falsehood » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:09 am

yeh if you have a vag you can be offended by whatever you like
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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby Red_switch » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:51 am

xsfat wrote:
It's a bit of a myth that porn is degrading to women. Who's really being exploited, the women who make a lot of money showing off their bodies and doing nasty shit for the camera or the men who pay for it? And in the porn industry, the men have a much harder job to do but get paid less.

There is no myth, just views and perceptions.
Whether or not you think the actor, the actress, or the consumer is being exploited has no bearing on whether it is viewed as degrading towards women.


Is this whole post self-contradicting or what?
I think it's lint.

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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby Craig_Bastard » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:05 am

Everyone says they feel sorry for Porn Actresses having to go thru all that stuff. But I feel sorry for german porn actors, do you know how hard it is to piss with a hard on?
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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby Fiction & Falsehood » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:24 am

prohibition doesnt work, if this happens its just a way to prosecute and make criminals of more people, lots of porn is fucked up, the industry needs more watchdogs and to be rendered less profitable(seriously how the fuck do they make money anyway?) and not the opposite, driving it underground will only make an already largely unregulated industry even more dodgy and fucked up.

but thats kinda the point isnt it?
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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby Dead Kid » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:59 am

Then there's the studies saying potential rapists will have to go outside and find something else to occupy themselves if they can't watch porn: http://www.udreview.com/news/research-c ... e-1.140534

Seems like they are after just another excuse to control and censor the internet. Unless they're targeting the industries of music, movies and especially sport as well.
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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby Grave Dancer » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:02 pm

Dead Kid wrote:Then there's the studies saying potential rapists will have to go outside and find something else to occupy themselves if they can't watch porn: http://www.udreview.com/news/research-c ... e-1.140534

something that people like to quote all the time, but has no real conclusive proof either.

The link between pornography and sexual aggression has been the subject of multiple metaanalyses.[9] Metaanalyses conducted in the 1990s suggested to researchers that there might not be an association of any kind between pornography and rape supportive attitudes in non-experimental studies.[10] However, a metaanalysis by Hald, et al (2010)[11] suggests that there is a link between consumption of violent pornography and rape-supportive attitudes in certain populations of men, particularly when moderating variables are taken into consideration.
In a recent review of this literature Ferguson and Hartley (2009) argue that the results from controlled studies are inconsistent.[12] They state that the authors of some studies tended to highlight positive findings while deemphasizing null findings, demonstrating confirmation bias in the published literature. Ferguson and Hartley concluded that controlled studies, on balance, were not able to support links between pornography and sexual violence.


So its retarded to continue trying to big-up porn because "it stops rapists" etc.
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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby MuscleMan » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:32 pm

they have a better chance banning eyes

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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby rex » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:25 pm

just ban human life starting with pc white knights first..........biggest full of shit cunts i've ever met.

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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby Fiction & Falsehood » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:31 pm

they have found it first difficult, and now with the internet, impossible to tax, so they are banning it, cos then it becomes contraband, and as such, highly taxable.
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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby Rizzo » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:58 pm

Porn is a lot like liquor though in that pretty much anyone can make and distribute it from their own home so prohibition is never going to work.
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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby bruce wayne » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:38 pm

much in the same way people think prostitution is exploiting/degrading woman they don`t seem to see or acknowledge that nobody is pointing a gun at these woman forcing them into the sex or porn industries

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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby Fiction & Falsehood » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:54 pm

well.... sometimes they are, but thats not really the point, banning it is only gunna make all porn dodgy and illegal, not make anything better, but they dont want to make it better, they want their cut of the action.
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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby Rizzo » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:09 am

bruce wayne wrote:much in the same way people think prostitution is exploiting/degrading woman they don`t seem to see or acknowledge that nobody is pointing a gun at these woman forcing them into the sex or porn industries

Some of it certainly is. I'd be inclined to say the majority of porn is exploitative in the sense that the performers might make a few grand but the company is making tens if not hundreds of thousands off it.
Just like 90% of music is crap so to 90% of porn is awful.
I'm not really sure how to articulate my arguments about it though. But I agree that banning it will do more harm than good by a large measure.
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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby bruce wayne » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:51 am

Rizzo wrote:Just like 90% of music is crap so to 90% of porn is awful.


i totally agree with you about both,but any porn with ashlyn gere is always good

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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby Fiction & Falsehood » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:02 am

just like any music with katy perry i spose... the comparison stands really quite well, most pop music is pretty much just softcore porn.
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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby Rude Mike » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:06 pm

The EU should just get rid of the internet completely if they have a problem with porn, as porn is the ONLY thing that kept the internet afloat; when all the shitty web businesses were ousted as insanely shit investments..
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Re: EU to vote on banning porn

Postby crain » Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:36 am

bruce wayne wrote:much in the same way people think prostitution is exploiting/degrading woman they don`t seem to see or acknowledge that nobody is pointing a gun at these woman forcing them into the sex or porn industries

que? not all but some certainly is. you can still buy a bitch in any country.
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