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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby FC » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:39 pm

Don't need to check out anything. Someone who actually didn't need to defend racism, would just say "that's actually not true" rather than trying to redefine the words used in the accusation.
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby Rude Mike » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:51 pm

Hahaha you're a fucking scientist. You cannot be serious.

Come back when you actually have facts to rebut my statement, or don't accuse me at all.
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby Rude Mike » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:55 pm

What did I attempt to "re-define"? Last time I checked the JewISH convert brigade already re-defined the meaning of Semite! This is a big can of worms by the way, so I'll just allow a moment for you to apologise for your unscientific approach.
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby FC » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:56 pm

I like the way you use the word "jewish".
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby Rude Mike » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:21 pm

You can't even distinguish between Israelites and European converts, and you call me racist?
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Postby FC » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:26 pm

so cute
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Postby akaxo » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:26 pm

pointless argument really, jews don't count when it comes to being considered racist
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Postby Rude Mike » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:32 pm

My gosh are you actually that foolish FC? Or am I being trolled lelelelel
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby Rude Mike » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:34 pm

akaxo wrote:pointless argument really, jews don't count when it comes to being considered racist

Well actually mate if you had read my earlier post you'd know to make a very specific distinction between Jews (descendants of the tribe Judea) and JewISH people (Families who converted to Judaism)- to do otherwise is to de-legitimise the Israelites as an ethnicity, and put the European (non-Semitic) usurpers in a position of judgement.
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby xsfat » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:05 pm

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ghetto ninja wrote:Don't get him started on Jews, according to Mike all Jews are evil zionists.
He comes across as a pretty full on anti Semite at times.

I beg you to actually cite where I have ever generalised all Jewish people as Zionists. Otherwise cease your slander.

In any event you were the one to conflate Jews and Jewish in the first place, see above, now you're the one attempting to distinguish them.

Whatever the difference you attribute between the two, what matters is the judgment you would place on either groups.
You labelled them (Jewish) usurpers, because they converted to judaism?

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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby Rude Mike » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:41 pm

xsfat wrote:
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ghetto ninja wrote:Don't get him started on Jews, according to Mike all Jews are evil zionists.
He comes across as a pretty full on anti Semite at times.

I beg you to actually cite where I have ever generalised all Jewish people as Zionists. Otherwise cease your slander.

In any event you were the one to conflate Jews and Jewish in the first place, see above, now you're the one attempting to distinguish them.

Whatever the difference you attribute between the two, what matters is the judgment you would place on either groups.
You labelled them (Jewish) usurpers, because they converted to judaism?

What the fuck are you talking about? Jews (Israelites) are not JewISH, they are JEWS. JewISH people are not from the same bloodline, so their entire claim to Israel is based on a lie, and to call someone "anti-Semitic" for pointing this out is beyond retarded.
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby Rude Mike » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:44 pm

I labelled them usurpers because they ARE usurpers. They are not the Israelites of Judea, they are not native to Palestine, they are not Semitic. How hard is that to grasp?
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby Rude Mike » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:45 pm

Con artists, swindlers, scum; call it what ever you wish they're all apt descriptions. Would you be this mad if it were someone pretending to be Maori to claim treaty settlements?
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby Rude Mike » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:48 pm

Well that went off-topic quickly.
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby Martli » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:52 pm

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Postby Martli » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:56 pm

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Is this you guys here??
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby Rude Mike » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:57 pm

Martli wrote:Tell us more about the man in the tent, Adolf.

Tell me more about how a blind man navigates a text based forum, seeing as you seem to have ignored all the facts I have presented, and resorted to insults. How droll.
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby Martli » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:00 pm

Oh come on, that wasn't ad hominem, it was just trolling! I haven't even tried to argue with you!
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

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Postby Rude Mike » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:03 pm

You.. You called me hitler :lol:
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby xsfat » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:09 pm

Would you be this mad if it were someone pretending to be Maori to claim treaty settlements?

Who is or is not Maori, is for Maori to decide, in accordance with their own custom. That is the very meaning of self-determination.
So for example, if a child (of any race) is adopted and brought up through the Whangai practice, they are no less part of a Maori whanau.
Connections and associations can be formed by means other than bloodlines and descendancy. Your (world)views are a bit narrow.

The Palestine conflict is one issue. As far as I'm concerned, there are many Jewish people around the world who are far removed from the Palestine conflict. Whether you intended to or not, your label of Jewish people as usurpers, and whatever negative connotations you place on them based on their ethnicity or beliefs (or lack thereof), it's discrimination plain and simple.
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby Rude Mike » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:45 pm

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Would you be this mad if it were someone pretending to be Maori to claim treaty settlements?

Who is or is not Maori, is for Maori to decide, in accordance with their own custom. That is the very meaning of self-determination.

The Palestine conflict is one issue. As far as I'm concerned, there are many Jewish people around the world who are far removed from the Palestine conflict. Whether you intended to or not, your label of Jewish people as usurpers, and whatever negative connotations you place on them based on their ethnicity or beliefs (or lack thereof), it's discrimination plain and simple.

It isn't discrimination you wally, they aren't JEWS. They are CONVERTS!
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby ghetto ninja » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:50 pm

And you are judging a massive group of people as if they are some sort of hive intelligence.
Mike I remember quite a few conversations with you maybe two three years ago where you drunkenly demonstrated some pretty extreme forms of discrimination against this group youre referring to as jewISH.
Its discrimination.
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby Rude Mike » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:58 pm

ghetto ninja wrote:And you are judging a massive group of people as if they are some sort of hive intelligence.
Mike I remember quite a few conversations with you maybe two three years ago where you drunkenly demonstrated some pretty extreme forms of discrimination against this group youre referring to as jewISH.
Its discrimination.

They're the ones stealing the identity of an ethnicity to steal land and commit gentrification against an entire population! And you call me discriminatory?

Edit: you are right that my wording makes it seem as if I'm pointing the finger at each and every Jewish person, but that isn't the case. They too have been swindled into believing they are the true heirs to Jerusalem, and many of them are so extreme in this view that they would condemn an entire population to death to further that agenda!
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Postby ghetto ninja » Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:15 pm

Rude Mike wrote:They're the ones stealing the identity of an ethnicity to steal land and commit gentrification against an entire population! And you call me discriminatory?

Yep.
I dont think any of my Israeli friends chose to steal their Identity.
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby FC » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:55 pm

This thread is becoming more and more depressing. Gotta distinguish between Israelis and the State of Israel.
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby MuscleMan » Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:38 am

I think its easier to assume he's referring to Old mate Ben and his cronies.

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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby Rude Mike » Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:59 am

FC wrote:This thread is becoming more and more depressing. Gotta distinguish between Israelis and the State of Israel.

Well yes, that was the accusation I was leaning towards; but I admit it is easy to generalise when the Israeli government pays Jewish people to move over..
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby FC » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:00 am

Guess it depends on your language though. So far, you aren't being particular convincing.
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Re: NZ 'needs population of 15 million for growth'

Postby ghetto ninja » Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:56 am

Rude Mike wrote: the Israeli government pays Jewish people to move over..

So does the UAE with its people. The UAE also pays its young people a weekly allowance while they stay here. I don't hear you condemning Arabs though.
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