Are we going to die in four and a half years?

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Are we going to die in four and a half years?

Postby spirawarrior » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:12 pm

I know this whole 2012 discussion has been out for quite a while but what is your opinion on it?
Personally, I think it's bullshit for so many reasons I can't even be bothered to type out.

And if you have no idea what I'm talking about...
http://www.december212012.com/

I suppose some of it is quite convincing though, in a way... Except for Nostradamus. His predictions are so broad, I could apply them to this bowl of pasta I'm eating..

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Postby YULE » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:14 pm

i smell troll

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Postby cirE » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:31 pm

welcome to punkas

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Postby cirE » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:38 pm

phlegm what did you delete
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Postby spirawarrior » Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:31 pm

cirE wrote:welcome to punkas

HORRIBLE FIRST THREAD/POST THOUGH TBH


I've been on this site for ages, this is just a new account because I forgot my old password.
Horrible in what way..

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Postby xDavex » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:53 am

2012 CAN EAT MY DICKHOLE



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Postby bridge. » Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:50 am

2012 gives me adequate time to achieve all of my life's goals.....which basically amounts to nothing.

Bring

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Postby Craig_Bastard » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:48 am

spirawarrior wrote:
I've been on this site for ages, this is just a new account because I forgot my old password.


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Postby Phlegm » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:17 am

cirE wrote:phlegm what did you delete



A post.
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Re: Are we going to die in four and a half years?

Postby Sebaz » Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:50 am

Only thing that is known with 100% certainty about this debate is that since humans have walked the earth, people have been predicting doomsday. 100% of them have been 100% wrong, 100% of the time. In this day and age I think that's called 100% fail.
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Re: Are we going to die in four and a half years?

Postby hello » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:22 pm

do you reckon it'll be as bad as that time we got attacked by those Y2K bugs cause my computer couldnt count to 2000??
that was scary as!

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Postby mmmm....good crack » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:24 pm

i just hope its not as bad as sars or bird flu, i died heaps.
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Postby loucke = shit » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:59 pm

dec 21 2012, the earth will be in the centre of the milky way, as it was 36,000 years ago, and as it is every 36,000 years, I think that is what will happen.

I would really like a reptillian/grey war to erupt on our planet, or the reptillians return to harvest their human slave encampments. that would be epic, but unlikely, though I am ruling nothing out and am making an underground bunker and stockpiling weapons and ammo.
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Postby tjbro » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:01 pm

hello wrote:do you reckon it'll be as bad as that time we got attacked by those Y2K bugs cause my computer couldnt count to 2000??
that was scary as!

my computer's still buzzing out from that shit, we're n stuck in 1999!

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Re: Are we going to die in four and a half years?

Postby BanalityDUFF » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:20 pm

dope, that shits my birthday.

all you fuckers going to die, on my birthday.

epic fail everyone.

epic win me.

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Postby The Oriental Express » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:50 pm

BanalityDUFF wrote:dope, that shits my birthday.

all you fuckers going to die, on my birthday.

epic fail everyone.

epic win me.


Life dosent let you off doomsday just because its your birthday, infact, it might make death much worse for you since you've been sucking up its air for the last however many years you've been alived

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Re: Are we going to die in four and a half years?

Postby yellowbus » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:01 pm

Chuganaut seem to have a part in all of this.

http://www.december212012.com/articles/ ... ndex.shtml

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Postby Derek the Chef » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:03 pm

yellowbus wrote:Chuganaut seem to have a part in all of this.

http://www.december212012.com/articles/ ... ndex.shtml


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Postby PertHJ » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:52 am

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Here I am.

Postby feet arse » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:34 pm

Hm.

Much has been written of 2012.

Most of it involving apocalyptic events, catastrophic cataclysms...

Most of what is written is either twaddle for profit, or fear based thoughts that spread like an insidious bacterium! Creating powerful structures in the minds of many, getting us to experience "fear" in the current moment, and project this fear into future through the expectation that these apocalyptic events will actually happen.

This in turn influences the actual direction that we as individuals and a species are headed towards, creating the events that we are more likely to experience in the future.

No one actually knows how exactly the Mayans related to this point in time, as the part of the tablets chiseled by the Mayans concerning this point were destroyed.

The universe allows us to interact with it and consciously shape that which we will experience. How we experience 2012, and what will be held in that experience, will primarily be defined by what we hold in our own minds and emotions.

This guy knows what is up: http://www.ourultimatereality.com/galac ... -2012.html

If I were to direct anyone curious about 2012 to any resource, this would be it. I hope it helps.

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Postby cirE » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:38 pm

feet arse wrote:Hm.

Much has been written of 2012.

Most of it involving apocalyptic events, catastrophic cataclysms...

Most of what is written is either twaddle for profit, or fear based thoughts that spread like an insidious bacterium! Creating powerful structures in the minds of many, getting us to experience "fear" in the current moment, and project this fear into future through the expectation that these apocalyptic events will actually happen.

This in turn influences the actual direction that we as individuals and a species are headed towards, creating the events that we are more likely to experience in the future.

No one actually knows how exactly the Mayans related to this point in time, as the part of the tablets chiseled by the Mayans concerning this point were destroyed.

The universe allows us to interact with it and consciously shape that which we will experience. How we experience 2012, and what will be held in that experience, will primarily be defined by what we hold in our own minds and emotions.

This guy knows what is up: http://www.ourultimatereality.com/galac ... -2012.html

If I were to direct anyone curious about 2012 to any resource, this would be it. I hope it helps.

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Postby Akuma » Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:28 am

Hmmm sounds like a 'The Secret' enthusiast to me.
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Postby YULE » Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:31 am

Pretty sure that 2012 is just the start/end of a calander cycle for the mayans, it's like a new week or year but it is for the long calander that they had. Someone just saw it and realised they could make money, like most things really.

Fuck that website is ridiculous.
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And I'm pretty sure unconditional love for all creations is illegal in most places... :P

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Re: Are we going to die in four and a half years?

Postby Amos » Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:22 pm

I'll tell you what will end in Dec 2012. The year 2012. It's over folks, that year is doomed.

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Postby snuff » Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:06 pm

feet arse wrote:The universe allows us to interact with it and consciously shape that which we will experience. How we experience 2012, and what will be held in that experience, will primarily be defined by what we hold in our own minds and emotions.


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Postby vampire lezbos » Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:48 pm

The following message was received by us shortly after we posted our tribute page to Benazir Bhutto. Although we cannot attest personally to the information given here, we feel in good conscience that we cannot and must not keep this from publication.

The person who wrote this message to us did so under their own name (which we have checked), and enclosed a number of photographs of them with the Prime Minister of Norway and (separately) with Benazir Bhutto. We are certain of their bona fides, but you will understand that we cannot reveal their real name or publish any photos without consent.

The content of this message, if true, could hardly be more important.


I am a Norwegian politician. I would like to say that difficult things will happen from the year 2008 till the year 2012.

The Norwegian government is building more and more underground bases and bunkers. When asked, they simply say that it is for the protection of the people of Norway. When I enquire when they are due to be finished, they reply “before 2011”.

Israel is also doing the same and many other countries too.

My proof that what I am saying is true is in the photographs I have sent of myself and all the Prime Ministers and ministers I tend to meet and am acquainted with. They know all of this, but they don’t want to alarm the people or create mass panic.

Planet X is coming, and Norway has begun with storage of food and seeds in the Svalbard area and in the arctic north with the help of the US and EU and all around in Norway. They will only save those that are in the elite of power and those that can build up again: doctors, scientists, and so on.

As for me, I already know that I am going to leave before 2012 to go the area of Mosjøen where we have a deep underground military facility. There we are divided into sectors, red, blue and green. The signs of the Norwegian military are already given to them and the camps have already been built a long time ago.

The people that are going to be left on the surface and die with along the others will get no help whatsoever. The plan is that 2,000,000 Norwegians are going to be safe, and the rest will die. That means 2,600,000 will perish into the night not knowing what to do.

All the sectors and arks are connected with tunnels and have railcars that can take you from one ark to the other. This is so that they can be in contact with each other. Only the large doors separate them so that the sectors are not compromised in any matter.

I am very sad. Often I cry with others that know that so many will learn too late, and then it will all be over for them. The government has been lying to the people from 1983 till now. All the major politicians know this in Norway, but few will say it to the people and the public - because they are afraid in case they too will miss the NOAH 12 railcars that will take them to the ark sites where they will be safe.

If they tell anyone, they are dead for sure. But I don’t care any more about myself. Mankind must survive and the species must survive. People must know this.

All the governments in the world are aware of this and they just say it is going to happen. For those of the people that can save themselves I can only say reach for higher ground and find caves up in the high places where you can have a food storage for at least five years with canned food and water to last for a while. Radiation pills and biosuits are also advisable if your budget allows it.

For the last time I say may God help us all... but God will not help us I know. Only each person individually can make a difference. Wake up, please...!

I could have written to you using another name but I am not afraid of anything any more. When you know certain things, you become invincible and no harm can come to you when you know that the end is soon.

I assure you 100% that things will happen. There are four years to prepare for the endgame. Get weapons, and make survival groups, and a place where you can be safe with food for a time.

Ask me anything and I will answer as much as I know about the Norwegian connection to all this. And just look around: they are building underground bases and bunkers everywhere. Open your eyes, people. Ask the governments what they are building, and they will say “Oh, it’s just storage for food”, and so on. They blind you with all the lies.

The marks of the alien presence are also there, and I often see the Norwegian elite politicians are not what they say they are. It’s like they are controlled in every thought, and what they have to say is just as they are told to do things in such manners. It is clear for me who they are, and who they are not. You can see it in their eyes and in their minds.

Remember that those who are going to be in and around the city areas in 2012 are those that are going to be hit first and die first. Later the army will purge the rest of the survivors and they have a shoot to kill order if there is any resistance to bring them into the camps where every one will get marked with a number and a tag.

I also see that Benazir Bhutto is spoken of on your site. Her death was tragic. I have met Benazir, as you can see. You will also see from the photographs that I have met with a number of other notable politicians and world leaders.

The public will not know what happens till the very end, because the government does not want to create mass panic. Everything will happen quietly and the government will just disappear.

But I say this: don't go quietly into the night. Take precautions to be safe with your family. Come together with others. Work together to find ways to solve all the many problems you will face.

Kind regards

[Name and proof of identity supplied]

From immediate further correspondence, and in response to our specific questions, we can add the following clarifications in our source's own words:

I have been to several underground bases [number given]. We used the railcars to get around. Only a few special people were selected to be shown around. Those that run with the elite know of this.

I have evidence of my claims. I trust my sources 100%, but they are afraid to tell what they know. People are afraid for their lives and that is how it is. I just also want the public to know what the hell is going on. I am not afraid of death or any other thing.

All the elite politicians in Norway know of this. They also know that if they reveal anything they will be removed from office and will be denied access to the different underground bases when the time is up.

The NOAH 12 railcars are transport railcars between the different bases underground. They have a support system of these all around from one base to another. They are mainly used by the military and they control all of them. There are orange triangle symbols in each base and the check-ins are a kind of energy field that everyone has to go through.

The future for my children is all I think of - and that for all the other children growing up in the new world. We have to make a difference for them so that they grow up knowing what their parents did for them, such as giving this information to people like yourselves.

In 2009 the government of FRP will come into power and Siv Jensen will be elected Prime Minister. This is already known. It's important to understand that. The elections are all fake and the same persons and power elite get elected each time in turn. Look up the political history of Norway, and the people that run the country now.

Please share this information with the rest of the internet. When the time comes people will survive because of the information they have learned from the different sites on the net.

I will not get anything but trouble from posting this, and I have no need to mislead anyone. I do this only to expose what is to happen in my country and that maybe some people will survive what is to come.

Kind regards

[Name supplied]

After posting the above, we presented more questions to our source, who replied with the intriguing information which follows.

The paragraphs indented and marked with an asterisk (*) constitute further supplementary information received after we had asked a number of additional clarifying questions.




When I was in the military I was in the [name of service given]. At one point we were given a task to get something out of a base and deliver it to another base.

We were told: "DO NOT ASK ANY QUESTIONS. JUST DO YOUR JOB." Later, when we landed outside the base, we were taken by trucks to outside the base where there were large doors heavily guarded by other military personnel.

Or it seemed like they were military, but they had different suits on them: orange and black suits with the orange suits having a golden triangle on them and the black suits having a green triangle.

* As far as I can remember the triangle went downwards, like a pyramid but facing down and had some weird kind of sign it it. To me it looked like the letter 'E', but the lines were not connected in the 'E' like we write the letter 'E'. It was shaped like the 'E' and in the middle the letter 'E' was pointing inwards... not as in any language I can read or understand, and certainly not in Norwegian.

* The signs were as far as I can remember not on the arms because I saw them clearly... they were at the left side of the black suit just over the chest area and on the caps they had on. The signs were not that big - just as a regular sized patch is, but clear enough to see them.

We went through the large doors. I was thinking what the hell is this, and I felt a bit scared at first. It was like something out of a science fiction movie. This was the first time I was in such a base.

We then came to a 500 meter long tunnel and there were more of these military personnel waiting with guns and transport for us. We were divided up in groups. Some went another way, and I and my group were asked to come with the black suited guards so they could take us to another location. When we came to the end we were asked to put on some masks "for our own protection".

I was thinking for our own protection... aren't we already protected by being inside this huge underground complex and by guards with weapons?

We were then asked to step inside a railcar... and this is what I know of the railcars. They are run by some kind of blue crystal energy, I think, or at least that is how it appeared. Then we sat in the cars and I asked one of the guards "What is this?" He replied, "You don't need to know this, sir."

* At the front where the operator sits there was a box with a window just besides him, and just when before powering up you could see the large purple-blue crystals emitting a purple-bluish light... not blinding you but quite beautiful to watch indeed. I have never ever seen such energy light or crystals anywhere. I was thinking that must be the power source.

* Later on in the base I saw that some people were working on these purple-blue crystals. They were larger than the ones I saw in the railcar - ca. one meter in length and they were lined up one after the other. They were taking some light through them. They were in fact purple-blue and when the light went inside they turned more blue and had a stronger color - the people had white masks on and goggles standing away from them when the light was going inside the crystals. I was about 20 meters from them and we were quickly rushed along when they said "Move on now."

* I also think that the energy fields that we went through before entering the check-in were powered by these crystals, because it was the same kind of light - or so it seemed to me. If I remember more I will let you know.

I could see that there was a tube-like system and the other railcars were just going so fast you just saw a light going by. I think this was a vacuum tube system where there is no drag.

* The railcars were just like the tube itself but inside. The tube was a bit larger. The main car or transport shuttle was I think ca. 12 meters in length and had a pointed shape in front and back and had seating for 10 people with the operator. You could drive them both ways and it was not necessary to turn it around. It was sealed from the side after you go inside and was quite okay... but the speed was too much, and I got sick after the ride.

* There was also some room for some cargo that you could take with you, but not much. There were a lot of these railcars around, as it seemed, and they just went passing by just like a light passes by in a flash. But you don't get to see the other rails either, because it's so fast that you forget to look and rather concentrate on your stomach when inside one of these.

Later on, after I went into politics, I found out what was inside of the rest of the base and what the bases are for, which I have already told you. I know that when this railcar moved - and it moved fast - I had never seen anything like this before. Later when we arrived at the end station I was feeling sick, and the other people that were there also felt the same way. One of the guards said it happens the first time to everyone.

When we came outside we were given goggles and asked to go through a security check. This is where it all gets weird.

There were guards with weapons all over the place... and remember I told you about the energy fields that one has to go through. I was thinking I should not be here at this place, and I was a little scared.

Then we got through this energy field and came to another room. I saw that there was a screen on the side of the wall that said HUMAN - NOT HUMAN - PURE - NOT PURE.

After I saw this I was thinking: Are there 'NOT HUMANS' too ??

* At the energy field check-in there was a screen, which I mentioned before. There was a weird language on the screen. I have never seen this before. Underneath it stood letters that were like the 'E' I told you about - but the only thing I could read was HUMAN - NOT HUMAN - PURE - NOT PURE.

[ Project Camelot note: we are seeking further clarification on this ]

The guards stopped us and told us to change clothes inside another room and come with them. When we had done so they said that it was time to go further down. Again, I was thinking how large is this place? We just came out of a rail system that runs for miles and miles... and then there is more?

We were then taken to a lift system, with seats, that was going to take us down... or, this is what I thought it was going to do. But it went sideways for about three minutes. In this place, time was not known to me because we had no way of telling what the time was. They had taken everything away from us at the check-ins.

* At the lift I remember I saw a letter that look like a headphone - like the hearing phones you have on your head when listening to music. It was just bent like that if you see it from the front side and pointing down.

All I can say is that when our job was done I was thinking that the world is not as it seems to be, and that many things are hidden from the public. It makes me sad and scared.

Later, when I got into politics, I began digging into this because I needed more answers. What I found out was that these bases were Arks for the government and some of the people and military to survive inside. There was a threat from outside that was going to be in the year 2012 and that the human species had to survive.

The 'Planet X' I learned about is from all what I have seen till now. The government knows this and are keeping it from the public. They have been tracking this object for a long time now and were given the first warnings from the USA.

I know that 18 bases exist in Norway. I don't know what many of the dangers are because I am not a scientist. But what I know is that before 2012 the different governments are going to leave for the bases that they have built for the last 40 or 50 years.

If this object goes by, there will be a lot of problems on the surface of the Earth. That is all I know. This is why they go underground.

If such an event comes, they have made sure that five years or more underground is going to be what they need to avoid this. When they know it's safe to surface, they will rebuild again. We were just told that we have to leave before 2012 and that there is something in space that is going to cause much destruction.

* I don't know if there is a threat from the sun itself. I am not so much into the science of things. I am just telling what I have seen and nothing more.

I can say that I have already said too much, but the people are now warned about this...

I have no need to make this up or create mass panic. I just want to tell the public what is to come, and I have done what I can from my side.

There are things in this world that are not known to the public. And there is one thing I can say about all this:

Be ready and have faith in yourself. There is no help in trusting the governments. Trust only yourself.

Kind regards

[Name supplied]


Comment from Project Camelot:

There is no 'hard' scientific data in our source's warning. The information does not explain exactly how or why 'Planet X' is such a threat (although we may guess). There is also no specific information about the exact need to go underground.

Our source is saying exactly what they know, and no more. It is very plausible that that as a politician the message's focus is on vital sociopolitical issues rather than science.

For more information about 'Planet X' and what it may or may not be, please visit Andy Lloyd's excellent website here, or Marshall Masters' website here. We were told by Henry Deacon (and this has also been widely reported by others) that the South Pole Telescope has been built to track what Henry called the 'second sun'. We urge readers to do their own research.

Between now and 2012 and beyond, many differing views, channeled messages, and insider revelations will come to the fore. Project Camelot is working hard on a documentary that will cover both positive and not so positive projections of our future.

It goes without saying that it is our sincere hope, prayer and full intention that the events portrayed above will not come to pass.

We are all co-creators of our world, from moment to moment. We urge each and every one of you to participate in consciously co-creating a bright and positive future for humanity, and to work with us in waking the sleeping and bringing to light the truth - wherever it may lead.

http://www.projectcamelot.org/norway.html

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Re: Are we going to die in four and a half years?

Postby Huey » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:16 pm

lol, sounds like someone has been playing too much half-life.

If I was in Norway I would call this clown up and tell him Im going to kick his ass if nothing happenes by 2013.
Because he's the hero Punkas deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight

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Re: Are we going to die in four and a half years?

Postby vampire lezbos » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:31 pm

Dark Mission : Richard Hoagland - Part 3
Albuquerque, New Mexico, December 2007
2012


When Columbus sailed the ocean in 1492, one of the things he brought back was stuff from the Mayan calendar, Mayan Codices. We were told they were burned, right? Wrong! I think they were sequestered in the Vatican archive. Who in the right mind is going to destroy information? Forget the fact that they are not religious, that they're into saving their own skins, that they're looking for edges on society and politics and populations, and it's all about control.

The cover story is, of course if they're burned, nobody can look at them any more - so you can look at them in secret. So I think all these codices that the scholars missed, they went back to the Vatican.

The reason I know this, cause the only way this could have worked out is that in 1582, when a German scholar was set up by Pope Gregory to head a council to reform the calendar. The seasons had gotten out of sequence with Easter and Christmas, and the resurrection of Christ and all that. You can’t have Christmas in July, and that was what was going on. So the calendar had to be reformed from the old Julian calendar. So Gregory sets Clavius, who is the German mathematician genius, to head this panel, this ‘presidential committee’, if you want to think of it in those terms, to basically recommend changes in the calendar.

When all's said and done, they came out with a calendar which readjusted the dates, the seasons, the times, brought everything back in sync. It’s called the Gregorian calendar. We live under it now. It took a while for it to percolate through various parts of Christendom and parts of the world that were not Christian at that time. In 1583 it was set ahead 11 days.

If you look at the synchronization of the Mayan calendar and the Gregorian calendar, this very crucial date of 2012, according to the US Naval observatory, you can go on to their website - Google is your friend - and you will find that the magic moment, the Mayan moment when the world changes, doesn’t end - but changes - radically, is December 21st, 2012, at 11:11 am. Universal Time.

There's no way that can be accidental, because 11:11 is a code for the physics that we’ve decoded from the monuments of Mars. That’s a long story that we don’t have time to get into now, but it’s on the Enterprise website, it’s in the books. The point is: there's no way that Clavius could have done this unless he either had an independent source of knowledge that was much more sophisticated.

I’ve had a mathematics professor who was the head of the department at Fairleigh Dickinson University actually write on the record that he could not figure out how Clavius did this. It’s too damn precise. So my supposition is that it was the secret codices brought back by Columbus et al, sequestered in the Vatican, with the Mayan Calendar, where they were able to adjust the Gregorian calendar so it would come out at 11:11 AM, the morning of the 21st, 2012.

Kerry: What happens?

Richard: I was afraid you’d ask me that. I don’t know.

Kerry: Are you working on that?

Richard: I’m working on it, of course. It’s a work in progress. I don’t know. I’m not going to sit here and tell you what I don’t know. I can tell you what I suspect.

Because the implications are so serious, and the amount of effort being spent by the bad guys is so great, I strongly infer that it’s not going to be a good hair day for a lot of people. I cannot take that to the bank yet.

There are various ways that this could be changed, radically. One way is if the guys in the black ops community, who are playing with their secret toys, spaceships and secret space program, going to and from, looting the Moon, finding the libraries, doing God knows what they are doing out there. If they suddenly realize that this technology is actually applicable to entire worlds, that there is a physics here that can literally take control of the planet, and prevent bad things from happening... that would be really cool.

The thing that would get us in the end is if there is a real problem coming, and there isn’t a damn thing we can do about it. Fortunately, based on all kinds of evidence, including the folks that you guys talk to all the time, everybody inside knows all this stuff. It’s just us peons outside that are not supposed to know it. Which means that nothing has to be invented. All there has to be, is redirected from over here, whatever they are doing with it, to over there, which is the planetary problem.

Our job is to get people on the inside to realize they don’t have a ticket out of here. That they’re caught with all the rest of us. We're all in it together because the lie has been different at every level. Even if they have been told they have a ticket out, they probably don’t. Do they have families and aunts and uncles and dogs and cats and mortgages and all that stuff? They will be here when whatever is coming in 2012, based on a physics that I can document, is here.

Kerry: We have a scientist who was talking to us very briefly for a moment. He came out and he said there are going to be three events between now [end of 2007] and 2012. He's a well regarded scientist, someone you would know, and perhaps you've been talking to him. We don’t know, we can’t name him.

He says one is a CME, a Corona Mass Ejection from the sun.

Bill: The second is a magnetic pole reversal. And then finally a pole shift. He said that then these events begin in 2009, and culminate in 2012. He wouldn’t tell us any more because he said he was constrained by a national security clearance and we were the first people he had spoken to outside of the national security community for the last seven years.

Kerry: He paid us a compliment, he sent us an e-mail, and we got into a small dialog. Now we're being approached by all kinds of people, some from black ops, with secrets to tell, as well as remote viewers, etc. They've all got information about what may be coming down the pike between now and 2012.

We just went to Russia and interviewed Boriska, the child with past life recall of a life on Mars, who started talking at the age of seven, and we're going to be releasing that interview fairly soon. Boriska is basically saying Moscow is going to be inundated by water in a very-matter-of-fact tone, and that it’s going to happen in 2009. He doesn’t know at this age of 11, why or how - he just knows it's going to happen.

We're getting all kinds of evidence. There's evidence of underground bases, of preparation to put groups of people in safe places, and let the rest of the people, about two-thirds of the population, just wing it and basically go by the wayside.

Richard: That’s probably a very large underestimate.

Kerry: We don’t like to believe that this is going to happen, or that some cataclysm so massive is going to hit the Earth in such a way that these events are going to cause total destruction and the end of human lives.

Richard: It’s not the end of human life, it’s the end of this cycle of civilization. We will go on, the human race will go on. If past evidence is accurate, which it is, there will be a new cycle, a new set of cultures and civilizations, and we will be the myths of their minds and scribes, and they will someday develop space flight, and they will go to the Moon. They will have people that will keep the truth from them, and the cycle perpetuates ad nauseam, unless we stop it here.

The name of the game, all of us who are looking at this from various facets, is we all need to combine our forces, resources, our knowledge base and goodwill, and most of all enlist you guys out there, and change the script. The tools are there. I now know the tools are there, no matter what is coming, it can be dealt with, because the physics is so extraordinary. The problem is political and spiritual will.

There's a small group that want us in a worst case scenario, to all go away. So they are not solving, they are not lifting a finger. In fact, they are perpetuating the illusion, the lie being different at every level, that there's nothing that can be done. In my research there is an extraordinary amount that can be done.

It can be stopped, it can be changed. The first way that you conquer an enemy - and to them we are the enemy - is you make them conquer themselves. You make them give up and want to stop fighting. You tell them it’s hopeless.

Remember the guys in Star Trek, the Borg? Fighting them is futile - resistance is futile. Well, it’s not. That is another level of the lie.

Kerry: What kind of physics or technology are you talking about? Are you talking about time travel? It’s hyper-dimensional physics, I’m sure. What is it that you see as the solution? I know that you’ve been working with David Wilcock, and he has a very positive attitude towards the future. Is his positive attitude coming because of research you guys have done together, or because he has some of the same sources that you have?

Richard: It’s a bit of both. The reason I got intrigued with Wilcock is because he was independently coming up with the same stuff we were coming up with, and I love independent confirmation. It’s the life’s blood of real science, when somebody separate, that you never talk to, presents you with a database and my God, it looks kind of like your database, and you never talk to each other. And that’s how Wilcock and I got together. We've worked together. We've developed joint information sources and we have done some publications to try and get the word out.

In terms of what to do, I’m not certain that even the best and the brightest of the in-crowd knows what’s really going to happen. I’ve found so many instances where they're working off these old texts and ancient documents, and they obviously haven’t a clue about the real physics behind it.

They could literally spending all this money, in the trillions. They could be building their huge underground cities like in the Urals and Russia. They could be doing their seed bank which they are doing up in Norway. I mean it’s all there - you can see what they are doing to get ready. But suppose they are being misled. Suppose they aren’t reading the physics correctly because they don’t know there is a physics.

It’s so compartmentalized that the guys who are working in physics, developing these neat spaceships or the energy sources, they're not talking to the political folks who are making these other decisions. Remember, it’s secret - they would rather give up a major American city than release the secret of the physics, because if they do that, they totally lose control.

Their paradigm, their whole reason for existing, is all about control. They can’t go there, they can’t say "Maybe we’re wrong, maybe we haven’t read this right". No one has called me up on the phone lately from deep inside and said, "Hey, Hoagland, what do you think's really going to happen?" (Unless you guys work for them, in which case it's a very elegant technique.)

The point is that you have to go by the numbers, and the numbers tell me, at this point, two very important things. One is, it’s not a date. It’s not going to happen at the stroke of midnight on December 21st 2012, or 11:11 AM. That’s part of the synchronized ritual. That’s a reinforcement that this is really based on the physics because the code is 11:11. 11:11 is actually - I'll tell you the answer, then you can go and back-engineer how we actually get there. 11:11 is the code for 19.5, which is the key geometry of the upwelling physics of every planet in the solar system. So that tells... it’s like the swastika, it’s like another version of imprinting something, that this is really physics based. Hyper-dimensional physics based.

There are two tracks of using this physics to avert what is to come. If there's something bad coming, one is technology. I strongly suspect that HAARP in fact is one of the positive technologies protected by all the stupid lies all around it. The worst case scenario, the mind control, bombarding people with rays, no, it’s to protect what HAARP's real purpose is - to try and work with plasmas in the ionosphere. Plasmas are key to controlling torsion waves, and torsion waves are a 3D etheric manifestation of the hyper-dimensional physics in this dimension.

You have a huge multi-gigawatt transmitter working with plasmas upstairs at the poles. Now, we find the Russians are very interested in both poles. They’ve sent an expedition to the North Pole, Putin did something very curious this summer, and they also sent a not-so-secret intelligence guy, in charge of their intelligence activities to the South Pole. What was that all about? It’s because the poles are the secret to the controlling the Earth if it wants to flip over.

Someone, somewhere, is actually working on a technology to prevent the worst case scenario. That’s good news. They live here. That means at least one group isn’t going to leave Dodge. They're actually working to solve the problem, and I can point to some other cute aspects of HAARP that we don’t have time to get into - but they're on the web and in Dark Mission.

They are so amazingly cool, affirming that some group actually is looking to solve the problem for all of us. That’s only with the technology we can see. We don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes that we're not seeing, that’s classified.

As I told one neocon some years ago, when I was having this discussion with him - and it was really amusing because this is somebody that lives, he’s a very high level banker... follow the money - he lives right next to George Bush down in Houston. He's obviously intimately involved in that set of conversations.

I laid out exactly at this point, which was several years ago, what I thought might happen - and he looked at me and said: "But you realize, Hoagland, that you’ll get no credit for this."

I said "What!?" He said, "This has to be done in secret. No-one could ever know." I said, "Go do it. To hell with credit, just go do it."

So things are being done. We don’t have to know what’s happening, we don’t need to know the details. We just need to know that someone's looking out for you. There is a component - remember it’s a fiefdom, they're all at war with each other - and there's some component that says "Holy Cow, my wife doesn’t a ticket, maybe I should do something for the planet because she’s going to be stuck here."

The other track - which actually is the more interesting track to me, and it’s been slowly coming up - is the consciousness track. Art and George and I have been doing these consciousness experiments on Coast to Coast AM, for years. We've demonstrated that there really is some indefinable invisible ability of a mass of people focusing on the same objective, to affect 3D reality.

In part, I'm sitting here because of that focused technology, from Art with the Coast audience. When I had the heart attack back in 1999, over the longer term, for that critical first week or so when Art was focusing people’s consciousness on me, there was a difference. I really believe that intervention in that critical first few days really was critical in getting me over that crisis, and then Robin’s long term supplements and all the other things she had me doing ultimately wound up with me having not one problem, sitting here in perfect health, ten years after that event.

I got to thinking, for obviously personal reasons: what if we could harness that technology, that invisible mind connection to work on this same problem. We’ve been discussing quietly with George how we would set up some more controlled experiments, and there was one recently, they had put up a countdown clock, and George had his audience focus on it, and sure enough Princeton EGGs, these random number generators that have been set up under the consciousness project at Princeton University, actually showed an effect, on time and on schedule, when people at a certain time of day were focusing on the experiment.

Suppose we were to lay out in some large media format - in theater, on television specials, this is the problem as we have determined it. These are the windows of vulnerability where intervention would be useful. Then we give people simply the database that this have worked over here. It can also work over there.

In the process, we democratically empower ordinary folk, all over the world, to collectively put aside their differences. We focus together as a collective human family to solve potentially the greatest problem in the history of the human family in this iteration of the world. Suppose it works. That’s our challenge, and that’s why I’m doing what I do. That’s why I wrote the book.

Kerry: That’s very impressive. In a sense, Ingo Swann was able to affect with his mind, this thing, with the help of SRI...

Richard: The magnetometer experiments. He actually fiddled with it and confused the hell out of them.

Kerry: It was supposed to be impossible.

Richard: It’s torsion. It’s all about torsion waves. The Russians, back when they were the Soviets, have 50 years of a database showing this is a real physics - which again has been suppressed in the western world. I’m trying to bring these two cultures together.

Isn’t it interesting that we’ve had so much positive response to our Washington DC National Press Club press conference. We had four Russian networks show up. We had a Russian network show up in this living room, and sit here with me and the screen showing some of this stuff which is going to be beamed on NTV - which is the largest commercial Russian television network - to 120 million Russians in the next few days.

If we can build bridges between two cultures that have a database that shows this is real science, real physics, this cannot be suppressed provided ordinary folks forget the authorities who have been lying to them and they listen to the folks that are trying to get them to see elements of the truth.

They have to do their own homework. You can’t sit and listen to me, and believe me. You should not – but you have the net. You have Google, Google is your friend.

You can now cross-correlate from so many source that you will get a gestalt that most of what I’m telling you is in fact verifiable and therefore real - and if that’s true, you can’t sit there on the couch watching television any longer.

You’ve got to get up and do something... because 2012 is coming.

Kerry: Thank you very much, Richard Hoagland. This has been really fabulous. Camelot thanks you, and we hope to return to interview you and Farrell, and continue the story.
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Re: Are we going to die in four and a half years?

Postby snuff » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:38 pm

vampire lezbos wrote:If you look at the synchronization of the Mayan calendar and the Gregorian calendar, this very crucial date of 2012, according to the US Naval observatory, you can go on to their website - Google is your friend - and you will find that the magic moment, the Mayan moment when the world changes, doesn’t end - but changes - radically, is December 21st, 2012, at 11:11 am. Universal Time.


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