Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

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Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Obzen » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:06 am

On Friday I bought a cheap Samick guitar from trademe for $130. To quote the description, the seller says "Good condition. very tidy generally. Plays well, everything works" but after taking it home I was immediately dissapointed when I went to play it and it has chronic fret buzz from the 5th fret up on the bottom E & A strings.

I was only after a cheap guitar, but not a malfunctioning one.

Pissed me off enough to go out to cash converters and buy another second hand guitar because I was super keen to spend the weekend playing/recording. New guitar $110, no fret buzz, really liking it.

So was this a bad trade? 'Good condition' should mean no fret buzz right?

I want to trade him back because it wasn't in good condition, if that isn't possible I'll want to sell it again... if I was to do that would the 'right' thing to do be to state in my description that there is fret buzz?

I'll also try adjusting the truss rod.

I'm semi new to guitar and don't know much about quality/value etc, so any input of knowledge would be appreciated.
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Cosmo Kramer » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:18 am

lol this samick thing is getting funnier and funnier

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Get it set up by someone that knows what they are doing and it should be fine (or not, you will soon find out)

Although....

would be funny to see what happens after you try and fix the issue and report back swith new problems with the guitar after you have tried yourself :baton:
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Obzen » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:21 am

Sure would be funny =/
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But bad trade or not? Fret buzz = not good condition? I think I'm gonna try and get my money back due to description lies.
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Cosmo Kramer » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:31 am

Obzen wrote:Sure would be funny =/
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But bad trade or not? Fret buzz = not good condition? I think I'm gonna try and get my money back due to description lies.


if i brought a guitar with fret buzz i would get it set up by a tech or a friend.... but i would get that done anyway on any guitar (new or 2nd hand)

All your samick might need is set up? but then again....it might be so badly made that it will never be ok.

i hope you learnt your lesson - you should of listened to some of us when we were trying to give you advice :baton:



if you do hit the dude back, make sure you post all convosations for entertainment value.

would actually like toi see what happens in this case...

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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Obzen » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:42 am

I'm not sure what the lesson is... you told me not to get a $50 guitar, and I didn't.

No-one specifically told me to watch out for the dreaded fret buzz, but I learned that lesson the hard way. My lesson is "don't buy a second hand guitar unless you will get the chance to try it out before the trade, and check the motherfucker for fret buzz!"

I'm stoked as fuck with my even cheaper guitar from cash converters, so if the lesson was "don't buy a cheap guitar" I still haven't learned it.

Re: setup... well I've got a guitar I'm happy with now and I don't want two guitars, I don't want to spend any more money, I just want to get rid of the buzzy one and get some/all of my money back.
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Cosmo Kramer » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:55 pm

words cannot get what i am feeling right now after reading that

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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Skoll » Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:23 pm

Sounds like you got what you paid for.

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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby buckton » Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:57 pm

Chuck fatter strings on it bro, it'll create more tension on the neck.
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Cosmo Kramer » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:21 pm

Ozzy,

Wasnt it pick up in newtown?

you should have gone round and picked up it and then told him he was a bad trader when found out it had da fret buzz

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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Green Bastard » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:37 pm

Dude selling may not have known about fret buzz, mightve only played open chords and it was in good condition for strumming along to his jack johnson cd's

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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Martli » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:49 pm

Maybe you can give the guitar to your bandmate's kid to fix.
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Obzen » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:01 am

Cosmo Kramer wrote:if you do hit the dude back, make sure you post all convosations for entertainment value.

would actually like toi see what happens in this case...

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>>> ************ <**********@hotmail.com> 19/03/2012 6:00 p.m. >>>

yeah man I guess if you feel hard done by that would be fine, though it was a very cheap guitar...you do get what you pay for, so standards for "plays well" in the context of a $130 guitar could reasonably be expected to be a bit lower. But fair point that the guitar wasn't listed with any faults, so you can swing by tomorrow same time to drop it off if that suits.


cheers




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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:57:49 +1300
From: ********************
To: ********************
Subject: RE: Trade Me -- Your Buy Now bid was successful.


Heya,

I'm not entirely happy with the guitar. The ad stated that it was in good condition and plays nicely, however it has quite a chronic fret buzz from the 5th fret upwards on the bottom e & a strings.

It was so bad in fact, that I went out the next day and bought another cheap guitar (which does play nicely and is free of fret buzz) from cash converters because I was eager to spend the weekend playing on a properly functioning guitar.

I'm pretty new to guitar so I'm not entirely sure what the standard is for 'good condition', but I would imagine for a guitar to be in good condition and play nicely it would be free of fret buzz and not in need of being serviced?

I would appreciate if you would consider letting me return this item and refunding me the money.

Thanks,


>>> ************** <*********@hotmail.com> 16/03/2012 10:04 a.m. >>>

hi, yup that works fine, i'm at ***********. see you then.


cheers



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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:45:04 +1300
From: ***************
To: ******************
Subject: RE:Trade Me -- Your Buy Now bid was successful.


Heya,

Won your Samick Stratocaster last night.

Is it okay if I come pick it up with cash this evening at about 5:45?

Cheers,
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Skoll » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:13 am

That's a relief, I stayed up late last night praying for you.

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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Obzen » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:17 am

Skoll wrote:That's a relief, I stayed up late last night praying for you.


Thanks heaps man, I really do appreciate it.
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Skoll » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:18 am

Obzen wrote:
Skoll wrote:That's a relief, I stayed up late last night praying for you.


Thanks heaps man, I really do appreciate it.


Written any mean breakdowns yet?

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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Red_switch » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:03 am

ha.
I think it's lint.

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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Cosmo Kramer » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:19 am

Obzen wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:45:04 +1300
From: ***************
To: ******************
Subject: RE:Trade Me -- Your Buy Now bid was successful.


Heya,

Won your Samick Stratocaster last night.

Is it okay if I come pick it up with cash this evening at about 5:45?

Cheers,



really...you should of checked it out then and avoided the whole siutation?

but the seller has a point...

yeah man I guess if you feel hard done by that would be fine, though it was a very cheap guitar...you do get what you pay for, so standards for "plays well" in the context of a $130 guitar could reasonably be expected to be a bit lower.




anyway.... whats up Ozzy tell us some more stuff

hows the writing
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby slob » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:48 pm

Should have got someone to look at it...
Maybe the action was just set too low for the E & A strings, 30 seconds with an allen key could've sorted it..
You can't expect a $130 guitar to come set up well....

Anyone who can follow simple instructions can do a basic setup with minimal tools (feeler gauges, Allen keys and maybe screwdrivers, less than $30 worth)

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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Tartanperil » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:10 am

Sure.

But if the ad says "plays well" irespective of price then it should "play well". If not, then money back (as the seller has accepted) is fair enough to expect.

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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Nathanael » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:46 am

You bought a samick. Punch yourself in the dick please.
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Obzen » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:13 am

Skoll wrote:Written any mean breakdowns yet?


Cosmo Kramer wrote:anyway.... whats up Ozzy tell us some more stuff

hows the writing


Spent the last 2 days writing this. http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?6srmr77r7qr3mar Pretty much finished it last night, will re-do the drums and fiddle with the structure a bit more though.
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Cosmo Kramer » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:39 am

sounds like bad Tool from the late 90's

wernt you the guy saying people's music was un-original?

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good to see you giving it a go, looks like your enjoying yourself.
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Fiction & Falsehood » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:43 am

lol, chris the superior
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby ghetto ninja » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:45 am

Have you listened to it? Was a pretty accurate summation of what I heard.
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Cosmo Kramer » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:45 am

Fiction & Falsehood wrote:lol, chris the superior



far from it Phill, i recall Ozzy going around telling everyone about their music, so, we can do the same :baton:
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Cosmo Kramer » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:51 am

Fiction & Falsehood wrote:lol, chris the superior



and also i had a disclaimer

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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby jont420 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:05 pm

downloading now, should be good
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Martli » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:34 pm

jont420 wrote:downloading now, should be good


It is good :lol:
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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Dick Dynamite » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:32 am

Was this recorded on a buzzy as samick?

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Re: Cheap guitar, fret buzz, bad trade?

Postby Obzen » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:51 am

Cosmo Kramer wrote:sounds like bad Tool from the late 90's

wernt you the guy saying people's music was un-original?


Well that's cool, I'm still experimenting and 'finding myself' musically, it's only my first song on my first electric guitar ;) ;) ;)

Cosmo Kramer wrote:wernt you the guy saying people's music was un-original?


Doesn't sound like something I'd say!

Dick Dynamite wrote:Was this recorded on a buzzy as samick?

Nah, I bought a cheap non-buzzy 'Aria' guitar from cashies (not sure if thats any better than Samick or not?) right after my shit Samick purchase, recorded this using that. The feedback and shit was put in there intentionally.
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