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Re: vdsl/fibre

Postby aerozol » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:40 pm

I have 25 down 9 up with snap VDSL at the moment. It varies a little bit though, but fast internet is nice to have, been getting a bit to used to it...
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Re: vdsl/fibre

Postby aerozol » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:34 pm

I mean when i'm at my gf's or something, it kills me.. So impatient

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Re: vdsl/fibre

Postby Red_switch » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:18 pm

J wrote:wait how tho?? even with 5mbit you only need to wait 5-10 seconds even for 1080p content before you can start watching it.

not that i dont want 100mbit+, bigger, faster is better :)


that really depends on the quality of the media you are waiting on though... as has been pointed out already in this thread, resolution is not the be all and end all. In a lot of cases, at those speeds, 720p is probably going to "look" better on screen.
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Re: vdsl/fibre

Postby Red_switch » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:18 pm

ghetto ninja wrote:I wonder if Redswitch talks to people like this irl?
If he does,I imagine he gets punched in the mouth a lot.


I think we'd get on pretty great :calavcalav:
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Re: vdsl/fibre

Postby mmmm....good crack » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:31 pm

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Re: vdsl/fibre

Postby Philfy Vermin » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:36 pm

do a fuk on him eddie
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Re: vdsl/fibre

Postby Red_switch » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:01 pm

Once you allow for overhead, to get reasonably quality at 1080p is going to take more than 5 mb/s (isn't the rule of thumb >8 mb/s or something?). You will still have the 1080p resolution, but the reduction in bitrate means that the video signal needs to be compressed to the point that dynamic range in the image is compromised - most people who watch a tonne of ripped content have probably experienced this, very noticeable in terms of loss of contrast in "blacks" in particular, as the low end of the pixel dn's is the cheap real estate when it comes to encoding/compression algorithms (essentially, the image delivered at the panel is often not a true 8-bit image). If you are watching 720p at the same bitrate, the reduction in the number of pixels to be "moved" means that more information can be attached to each pixel. At practical viewing distances, most people will appreciate the increased bit depth of each pixel in the image, in improved contrast, more than the actual increased number of pixels. Ofcourse if you're downloading the content to watch later on, then this is way less of an issue, but for streaming, or tv broadcast, it matters a lot. A lot of HD sport is broadcast in 720p, rather than 1080p, because of bandwidth limitations, where lack of dynamic range is exacerbated by motion. It's even worse once macro blocks come into the equation.

This is one of the issues of 4k - network capabilities (television and internet) are a way off allowing streaming and live broadcast to the punters at large with decent dynamic range. Long term, the most viable delivery mechanism for 4k media will be the internet, but it's a ways off. It'll be interesting to see how compression techniques evolve to achieve this. I've heard ideas of rapid archiving being kicked around for similar applications, but not sure if they are a reality or not?

All that being said, most of the media I have at home is of average quality. But "good enough" is fine for me most of the time, I don't live for TV/movies. And I don't acquire anything myself these days, so I'm grateful for whatever I get :)
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Re: vdsl/fibre

Postby TimShadbolt » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:11 am

ghetto ninja wrote:I wonder if Redswitch talks to people like this irl?
If he does,I imagine he gets punched in the mouth a lot.


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Re: vdsl/fibre

Postby Red_switch » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:34 pm

How's Asha doing these days anyways?
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