Sunday, TV1: Animal Lib special

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Sunday, TV1: Animal Lib special

Postby Lurch » Wed May 30, 2007 10:07 pm

Saw ads about this on TV1. 7.30 Saturday. Anyone know anything about it? Something related to ALF. Looks interesting, might have to have a view before heading out.
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Postby Poo » Thu May 31, 2007 6:11 pm

its not 20/20 its the Sunday current affairs show
featuring Keith Mann from UK (11 yrs in jail for ALF stuff) talking about his new book www.fromdusktildawn.org.uk and how he was supposed to come to NZ last month but the govt stopped him, plus NZ activists as well
there will hopefully be good films of NZ activists rescuing animals from factory farms etc
could be good, could be a "all animal rights activists are insane" show, just have to wait and see

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Postby /// » Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:16 pm

On in fifteen minutes.

EDIT: So far incredibly biased. Infuriating.

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Postby lena » Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:43 pm

what really gets on my shit is how when a so called non biased documentary tells a story with two sides they choose who they want to portray as the bad guy and then do an extreme close up on their face, then they put the "good person" in soft focus from a distance to make them look better.

its an infuriating disgrace to so called journalism.
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Postby lena » Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:44 pm

Gnawsea wrote:On in fifteen minutes.

EDIT: So far incredibly biased. Infuriating.


agreed. im getting really angry watching it.
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Postby Future Shock » Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:55 pm

treating animals like that is wrong and i don't even partake.

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Postby chrisbucks » Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:59 pm

What I find really infuriating is that the industry doesnt want to talk about it. Their excuse this time was that they "didnt want to give animal rights activists anymore publicity". They wont even defend any accusations or try to justify their actions.
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Postby Future Shock » Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:25 pm

green army, we all agree.

and if not.....

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Postby Lurch » Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:16 am

Lame. I completely forgot and missed it. Guys at work were watching WWE anyway. (3 hours WWE is too much - even with midgets)

I thought it would be fairly "all these crazies are going to kill us all OMG!!1!!" however, and it seems I was correct. Still might have been good for a laugh.

Still: Anyone get a copy or know of a youtube?
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Postby hiv-positive » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:42 pm

Yeah, it wasn't bad. Shame about that hippy girl having a cry, and that rather clever chaps daft haircut - fuel for the talk back radio crowd for sure.

Still, at least the issue made it to mainstream NZ. Hopefully a handful of folk watching made a decision to be more aware of where their food comes from.

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Postby Sweet Tribals » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:47 pm

missed it. youtube?
Guess
so we can go and kick some Serbian pussy ass.

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Postby Dirty Dancin' Dave » Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:48 am

I saw a bit of it... can't see why anyone would think it was biased.

...although the little bit on how heaps of parkinsons sufferers had benefited from vivisection certainly would have rubbed you lot up the wrong way...
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Postby Dirty Dancin' Dave » Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:52 am

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/video_popup_windows_skin/1165029

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/video_popup_windows_skin/1165339

I think it's the second one, I can't watch either on my computer though.
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Postby Lurch » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:38 am

Yeah it is the second one, thanks. The first doesn't seem to work for me but woulda been interesting to watch too maybe.
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Postby Dirty Dancin' Dave » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:09 pm

I just watched the dialup version... I don't know how you can say it was biased. It made nz animal rights activists look pretty darn good imo.

I couldn't see what was so bad about the pig farm they raided though... I mean, obviously that chick wouldn't want to live there, but what was she expecting?
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Postby Future Shock » Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:05 pm

if you asked that i dare ask?

i think some mighta thought biased against meaties.

but it's wrong, that is all.

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Postby /// » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:56 am

Dirty Dancin' Dave wrote:I just watched the dialup version... I don't know how you can say it was biased. It made nz animal rights activists look pretty darn good imo.

It seemed pretty one-sided to me in the beginning. Repeatedly showing footage of people working for ALF destroying equipment (I noticed the piece showing the man/woman destroying the computer screens in the labs was used at least twice, by the way), showing protests and the like all the while saying things like 'The Animal Liberation Front are considered the second most dangerous 'terrorist' group after Al-Qaeda'. You could even tell that the guy who presented the segment at the very beginning had an issue with these people taking action.

I also observed at the beginning they seemed a lot more focused on pointing the finger at these activists for disrupting and fighting against vivisection which 'saved human lives', but if I recall correctly, they failed to acknowledge animal testing for cosmetics etc (this was at the start, however).

Also showed a bloodied Brian Cass (Huntingdon's managing director) after he had been attacked by activists, trying to make out the ALF to be a thug-like organisation even though it was a one-off incident. Made me even more furious to hear him moaning like a little bitch and saying to the camera 'it hurts'. Don't like being on the receiving end of it, do you cunt?

Did slightly improve as it went on. I appreciate the fact that they showed the clip of Keith Mann (the animal activist barred from visiting New Zealand) and a fellow activist handing out leaflets on a street and asking a woman to sign to which she replied something along the lines of 'No, I don't like you activists. Vivisection saved my something-or-rather's life.' and he called after her, 'well what about all the humans that have died after animal-tested medication that proved alright on animals but ended up failing on humans'. Doubt those are the exact words, but the exchange went something roughly along the lines of that.

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Postby BOOT GIRL » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:36 am

the attack on that scumbag cass was not ALF ,was an independent ,one off action not claimed as a ALF action

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Postby /// » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:17 pm

Yeah, good point, actually. Makes the whole thing even worse.

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Postby Future Shock » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:09 pm

i thought it was biased against meaties actually except for legislation that was hopeless but then thats what they were talking about.

your lucky it was on at all.

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Postby Future Shock » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:55 am

look up bbc hardtalk.

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Postby kittenslayer » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:50 am

I bet those guys who unleashed the "rage virus" are vegans :P :P

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Postby Lentil » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:29 am

Just saw this for the first time the other night, on vid

I couldn't see what was so bad about the pig farm they raided though... I mean, obviously that chick wouldn't want to live there, but what was she expecting?

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The piglet she was holding was squealing cause it had a broken leg. I think pig farms are pretty atrocious with the sow stuck on her side like a machine so that the piglets can feed but she is unable to look after them. If the piglets get on the wrong side of her they often die of starvation which i also saw footage of.

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Postby Horus » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:42 pm

Just saw this footage.

Quite good comments from the Open Rescue folks. But for future interviews, I suggest include comments like "What about people who helped free slaves from the evil Confederacy in slave days? That was **against the law** then, but we now all regard those ppl who rescued slaves as heroes."

Such remarks might shut up the stupid TV guy, who could not seem to get over his horror that "these actions you are doing may be (gasp) illegal! Doesn't that bother you?" (It sure seemed to bother him or his boss.)

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Postby Future Shock » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:46 pm

bbc interview on hardtalk mentions that mi thinx.

much betta.

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Postby Poo » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:50 pm

you can see the undercover films and rescues shown on the doco here. this is the unedited version done by the activists, a compilation of a few rescues and film missions in the last six months

http://www.meatfreemedia.com/Media%20Database/search.php?SM%5B%5D=180&ShowThumbs=1&noheader=1

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but wait, theres more . .

Postby Poo » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:52 pm

and here is the hardtalk interview with Keith Mann, for those who cant be bothered googling.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/hardtalk/6757207.stm


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