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USA's best known animal lawyer to speak in AKL - Mon 7 May

Postby xsfat » Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:19 am

I start my job in N.P on the same day, rats! For the select few interested...

Steven Wise will be presenting a public lecture at the University of Auckland's Faculty of Law on Monday 7th May.
The lecture is entitled: "Are Nonhuman Animals Entitled to Fundamental Common Law Rights?".

Details:
Venue: Stone Lecture Theatre, Building 801, Faculty of Law, Auckland University
9 Eden Crescent, Auckland, NZ
Time: 7:15 pm, Monday 7 May 2007

Pre-lecture drinks and nibbles will be served in the Law School Staff Lounge from 6:30pm.

The lecture is free and open to all.

Please advise Christine Calvelo at the Law Faculty office if you wish to attend.
Christine can be contacted at: c.calvelo@auckland.ac.nz or on 64 9 373 7599 extension 85222

Professor Steven Wise was described by USA Today as America’s best-known animal lawyer. He argues the case for granting legal rights to animals in his book, Rattling the Cage: Towards Legal Rights for Animals, which has been described as 'the animals’ Magna Carta'.

Professor Wise was the first person to teach an animal law course at Harvard Law School and currently teaches animal rights law at Vermont Law School. He has lectured extensively throughout North America and is a frequent speaker at law schools, legal conferences and colleges in Europe, including the University of Vienna Law School, University of Basel, Lincoln’s Inn London and the Office of Animal Rights in Florence.

President of the Australian Law Reform Commission Professor David Weisbrot AM:
Law reformers are now beginning to recognise that animal rights will be one of the next great challenges in social justice. Nonhuman animals traditionally have been left out of the rights equation. However the emergence of an animal law movement, and our growing understanding of DNA genetics and evolutionary biology, are prompting us to rethink many traditional legal concepts.

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Postby PertHJ » Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:52 am

jesus, animals can become lawyers now? fuckin' hell
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Postby the croc » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:14 am

This guy sounds pretty interesting.

So you did decide to move to NP?

Sweet I'll chuck you a PM when I'm back up there and we can hang out or something.
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Postby Shep » Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:00 pm

PertHJ wrote:jesus, animals can become lawyers now? fuckin' hell


Just gots to say, that was pretty funny.

Sorry for ruining the thread xsfat, it definitely sounds like its worth checking out.

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Postby PertHJ » Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:22 pm

oh yeah X2 on the ruining thread call, it was early and I'm a comic genious at that hour....
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Postby David xvx Ludd » Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:30 pm

Hopefully I'll be able to make it to this - it's going to be an interesting lecture.
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Postby xsfat » Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:17 pm

sweet as croc, that'd be awesome
the 'animal lawyer' was the first thing I noticed about the announcement too...
if anyone attends this and is able to source a transcript or something, i'll love u long time

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Postby David xvx Ludd » Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:11 pm

xsfat wrote:sweet as croc, that'd be awesome
the 'animal lawyer' was the first thing I noticed about the announcement too...
if anyone attends this and is able to source a transcript or something, i'll love u long time


I'll see if I can sort something.
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Re: USA's best known animal lawyer to speak in AKL - Mon 7 M

Postby Ph!1 » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:43 pm

Law reformers are now beginning to recognise that animal rights will be one of the next great challenges in social justice. Nonhuman animals traditionally have been left out of the rights equation. However the emergence of an animal law movement, and our growing understanding of DNA genetics and evolutionary biology, are prompting us to rethink many traditional legal concepts.


too right.

cool if it was in our lifetimes... humans live too short, all the old fuckwits who opposed emancipation in the past never lived to see it happen.

id love to show some 18th century politcian a black woman and say 'this is a representative from your largest demographic'

200 years ya reckon?

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Postby Future Shock » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:17 am

go read orwell post.

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Postby _chantal_ » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:28 pm

This guy is a genius, I'm hoping so so bad that I will somehow be able to get to Auckland and back on Monday night for it without any money... hope is slim.

Apart from contributing hugely to the academic debate, he is one guy who is personally responsible for so much real life action. It's like he is pushing the legal system towards animal rights in teeny weeny little steps practically by himself.

In related news, apparently there is a test case before the Austrian Courts at the moment to determine whether chimps can enjoy some human rights (I hear in NZ they do sort of... non-human homonid rights). Thats the kind of stuff Wise has spent lots of time on in the US

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Postby Future Shock » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:40 pm

cool but i'm a cynic about people who put animals before human suffering as i see it as one adndalmsot the same, i'd be a total hypocrite if said otherwise, i'd go but these talks just make me madder than i already am and am on a different track going for the same goal as it were, gotta stay focussed spose but i am accepting.

and xs he should go to np, big farming country and you'll miss alot of this. while there but the benefits may outweigh the negatives.

i've enjoyed the positive empty city this anzac, i always forget its on since its mi birfday the next and memories are muddled by distractive ones, city don't help.

and also see the athropo neg side of np too to see the bigger picture, chur bo! and don't live near the poison factory, k, k. 8) innit together, fs.

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Postby _chantal_ » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:49 pm

Who said he does put animal suffering before human suffering?

The fact that humans suffer isn't a reason to ignore the suffering we inflict on other animals

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Postby Future Shock » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:00 am

but many do as they see no issue to help before animals as they see no solution while saving animals while i see it as the whole and more important to solve as it will help the solution.

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Postby PertHJ » Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:49 am

you obviously shouldn't judge this guy on other fuck stains though should you.
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Postby Future Shock » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:45 pm

I suppose your right, merely discussing the point and how many fuckstains should i meet as i haven't found many who agree with me lately, its like anarchy out the window.

and i say that with a little mirth but huge cynicism, not too serious eh.

I would definitely go!!!!!

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Postby Horus » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:43 pm

PertHJ wrote:jesus, animals can become lawyers now? fuckin' hell


Yep, half the members of parliament are lawyers, and most are swine. :P

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Postby Horus » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:49 pm

But seriously, I'd have loved to go to Wise's lecture, but I'm returning from my weekend in Welly that day. (So could I have a copy of the transcript too? Or why don't you just post it as an article here?)

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Postby David xvx Ludd » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:56 pm

I don't know if there will be a transcript, whether the lecture will be recorded or whether there will be any other ways for people who do not attend to hear/read it. I will talk to Peter Sankoff at the Law School when he's back in the country later this week and see what options there are.
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Postby xsfat » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:55 pm

http://www.voiceless.org.au/Law/Law_Stu ... eries.html

not sure if the recording is the one in NZ or Aus
very interesting if you got 48 mins, have to listen to the whole thing because he progressively develops his theory of how human rights can (and should) be extended to non-human animals

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Postby jono.emergency » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:38 am

awesome, thanks for that link


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