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you fag

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:39 pm
by cirE
a lot of people use gay/faggot/queer in a derog manner in their everyday speech... but they deny that they're homophobes

a recent encounter with a regular munter...

"shut up you faggot"
"don't like people of my sexual preference huh? afraid of us? or just not comfortable with sexuality?" (everytime someone calls me "gay" i like to reply with accusations of homophobia... just my way really...)
"no i'm not saying that you're gay, and i don't have anything against homosexuals, fuck up, i just think you're a faggot"

so uh
discuss language, maybe?

oilo

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:53 pm
by Future Shock
G.E.T. S.O.M.E. S.L.E.E.P. zzzzzz

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:57 pm
by cirE
it's not even 7pm and i got up round 10am today
i'm still pretty awake thx vry mch :!: asl lol

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:58 pm
by Dick Dynamite
Go fuck a boy you homofag.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:20 pm
by Matt
Actually, the one I keep catching myself doing is using "gay" for something bad. As in, "that is SO gay." I think that's a really bad one, because it attaches negative connotations to being gay.

Now I have a running in-joke with people where you instead say, "That is so fuckin' straight" for something bad. "That is completely hetero."

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:24 pm
by Dick Dynamite
I never really caught on to calling things 'gay'.

The only time I'll ever use sexuality as an insult is as a joke. (see above)

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:15 pm
by Ph!1
it wouldnt be funny if i said 'this thread is so fucking gay'

i try not to say 'gay' in that context, but without much success, sorry everyone.

oilo

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:18 am
by Future Shock
freedom of words, gay means happy and faggot's is a pair of stix, nigga is a coloquialism which I wouldn't dare use in front of a homie and nigger is a rascit term denoting a negro who was often seen as a lower form of being, you fags(I mean smokes).
burn books.

Re: oilo

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:25 am
by cirE
Blurgh wrote:you fags(I mean smokes)
haha

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:57 am
by flinders_
Its strange, Homophobia (and Racism) seem so outdated to me when I hear people say 'fag' or (white people) say 'nigger' it seems almost quaint.

But yeah, it sucks when you know you have no homophobia inside you but you find yourself saying 'fag' or 'thats fucken gay'. I guess its a primary/secondary school hangover.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:45 am
by georgasaur
Terrible, and the sad thing is you kind of pick up on it. I've done it before and then quickly gone "ooh, that sounded horrible"

People shouldn't use "fag" or "gay" as derogatory insults.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:03 am
by akaxo
pisses me off no end sometimes when people use gay or fag like its a bad thing or something, my responses usually go something like cires. actually bothered making a complaint about someone at uni using fag like that and they got in a bit of strife haha :lol:

oilo

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:13 pm
by Future Shock
yes its true I cringe and I do also beleive though whether it's contextual or your motives or belief's, such as somone going on all day anbout how fags are taking over and that guitar solo is gay.

it certainly doesn't help in attitudes to people who get enough shit already, look i did it again, I don't mean they get covered in shit literally but they may as well do.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:15 pm
by xWhenItPainsItRoarsx
fags

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:29 pm
by FC
Im sure theres a lot of pissed off old people who used to like using "gay" to mean happy. Ive heard my grandparents do it a fair bit.

Tomatos tamatos.



Aidan

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:25 pm
by Maleficent
Matt wrote:Actually, the one I keep catching myself doing is using "gay" for something bad. As in, "that is SO gay." I think that's a really bad one, because it attaches negative connotations to being gay.

Now I have a running in-joke with people where you instead say, "That is so fuckin' straight" for something bad. "That is completely hetero."


I had some gay friends who used to say stuff like that.
OHMIGAWDTHATISSO -HET-

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:48 pm
by Former Child Star
i stopped using it...and broke my lil brother of the habit too.


the only time i'll use it is in a self ironic fashion.


oh...there was one time where i drove a flat full of pink polo shirted rugger heads into a frenzy:


OI! cocksucker, learn to park your car properly


what? did you call me gay?


no, i said you were a cocksucker, and that you park poorly because you're in a hurry to fit in the flat daisy chain before the rugby starts



*cue running away*

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:19 pm
by ted the bastard
Wax wrote:it wouldnt be funny if i said 'this thread is so fucking gay'

i try not to say 'gay' in that context, but without much success, sorry everyone.


and i get called a fairy last week for refusing to use this kind of slang :?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:45 pm
by Ph!1
xWhenItPainsItRoarsx wrote:fags


yeh you only come in the queer forum cos youre so damn straight.

oilo

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:15 pm
by Future Shock
I think Mel said it best you breeders, hetero is so out right now, they fuck up everything, kill heteros, gay power.

damn white people, nobody who uses it as a general description for themselves likes for it it to be used as a term for all things bad, almost bringing it back to a bigots point of view.

I've given up though, so many peole use it, sumtimez I do sumtimez I don't but yea it's wrong.

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:42 pm
by Ace McWicked
I used to not do it and now I oft find myself saying that something is 'gay' or 'homo-fucking-fag-nuts.' I don't actually like doing it but then calling someone a 'fucken 'tard', a 'useless spastic cock-monkey' or 'Phil Collins' is also abusive to whole other sections of society if it is to be taken in the context that 'gay' means 'homosexual', and I think it was meant to be taken in that context, at least initially. Moral lesson, terms of abuse are prejudicial and it is wrong but people do it more often than they think.

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:53 pm
by Trinity
I remember when "Panel beater" was used as a term of abuse.

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:26 pm
by Ace McWicked
Trinity wrote:I remember when "Panel beater" was used as a term of abuse.


Excuse my obvious retardedness, but were they actually referring to those who realligned car panels?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:51 am
by The Ost
To me gay has many connotations, it means "happy" "homosexual" "idiot" and "effeminate" All the terms are exclusive of each other.

It's like "motherfucker" that has good and bad connotations. Mothers need loving too!

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:56 pm
by Dennis from Accounts
Yea, but not too much

8O

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:35 am
by Dan Last
Ace McWicked wrote: but then calling someone a 'fucken 'tard', a 'useless spastic cock-monkey' or 'Phil Collins' is also abusive to whole other sections of society


Image :lol:

oi!

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:16 pm
by Future Shock
yea like cock :wink: fuckin @ P! stupid fucking diabetics :lol: its the connatation its made or taken in.

if you mean that your a damn human and you say it with such bitter vitriol, it could be taken as an insult becasue that person doesn't know why your so angry at them and people don't like to be wrong :wink:

I suggest not going up to a 'gay' perosn and saying 'fag' unless unless you know them or you want to get smacked.
mind you be like going up to a holocaust survivor and going jew! it can be a slippery slope if at the same time your not setting others straight on their connatation.

I think more people should say 'meh' and dance in the pale light of the moon' ahahaha.

wiwi

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:21 pm
by Future Shock
yea except if its affect your livelihood in the broadest sense.

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:25 pm
by Ph!1
personally, im less worried about my inbuilt predjudices torwards faggots and niggers as i am towards fat people.

ive said things a few times around a weighty person and saw their face and thought:

*fuck im an insensitive bastard i am*

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:23 am
by akaxo
yeah thats a pretty good point and is something that can significantly contribute to crushing someones self esteem for years. i've done it myself around some really good friends who i in no way would even dream of wanting to hurt or make feel bad. it's worth noting how some throw away comment about some obese person you see across the road, on telly or whatever can effect someone who is senstive about their weight.

some amazing beautiful people i know and love have been pretty messed up and made to feel like shit about themselves by arseholes telling them they are fat or whatever, or just by the bullshit portrayal of the 'ideal' body imaged jammed down our throats by the media. and a silly comment made without thinking can bring back all those feelings for them. and it sucks. and i kick myself everytime i do it without thinking